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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:33:52 -0800
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  great trish i was just thinking, i did not know all
our theology about animals was going to the list, but,
it seemed to stike a cord with some on the list and i
was going to change it to a thread of its own and just
invite everyone to join in with the few that already
have.
  it is a whole lot lighter than the other depressing
thread  we have going, and we can all use a little
lighter mix.
  every one?
--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Kendall,
>
>    Oh I know - our cats are little humans in fur
> coats. Winter runs up and greets me and it sounds
> like she says Mom. Amber and her friends swear that
> cat speaks English. The cats have learned to open
> the swing kitchen door and Winter runs up to the
> phone and looks like she would answer - as Amber
> says if she had thumbs. And Don't they communicate
> with just looks - In our house have one cat wail and
> the others come running to see what's wrong. And
> tell them no and see the dirty look you get back. I
> recently read an article which said animals are
> smarter than we have given them credit for. I think
> any good pet owner knows that. We have taken the dog
> to the Unitarian Church where they have pet
> blessings.
>
>                                      Trisha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Kendall David Corbett
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
>
>
> Trisha,
>
> If that's the Catholic theology, they obviously
> didn't see my dog when
> his toe got caught in the ramp on my van.  He looked
> at me, between
> whimpers, as if to say, "Please Dad, get it loose.
> It hurts, and I'm
> scared."  I've attended several churches that do pet
> blessings
> frequently.
>
> This Q&A discusses animals souls vs. human souls
> quite nicely:
>
>
http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=3D431500&langua=
> g
> e=3Den
>
>
> Kendall Corbett
>
> An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
>
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:36 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
>
> well, my logic does not agree with theirs.
>
> --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> >   The catholic logic is only thing with souls go
> to
> > heaven, only people have souls - so only people go
> > to heaven.
> >
> >                                Trisha
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > ken barber
> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:53 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> >
> >
> > well, trish. i believe heaven and eart were
> created
> > perfect. there were animals from the first 6 days,
> > no
> > matter how you interpret "days." if animals were
> > part
> > of the perfect, why would they not be part of the
> > other perfect.
> > and the bible itself talks about horses as part of
> > the
> > new creation.
> >   i do not know either way about if there ever was
> > unicorns, but, i do know that there are people who
> > love animals very much and animals are a part of
> > their
> > happiness. heaven is supposed to be complete
> > happiness, so i do not have a problem believing
> that
> > BIG GOD, can work it out so we have our animals to
> > complete the experience.
> >   seems logical to me.  i do not quite understand
> > why
> > this is a big issue with the priest. now, i do not
> > know or claim to know if my dogs are going to be
> the
> > exact same dog, recreated, or a like beast created
> > so
> > close that i'll not know the difference. i do not
> > know, really do not care. i do not put them on =3D
> par
> > with humans, but, do not see why they can not be
> > recreated if it will make us happy.
> >
> > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > >   I am glad, I can't imagine God would make a
> > place
> > > devoid of all the wonder we have here on earth
> for
> > > people to live in - in the afterlife - if
> anything
> > > that's where the Unicorns are!!
> > >
> > >                                Trisha
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> Of
> > > ken barber
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:47 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> > >
> > >
> > > i have no trouble believing that there will be
> > > animals
> > > in heaven.
> > >
> > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > HI Ken'
> > > >
> > > >   Many moons ago - when i was 20, I was
> engaged
> > to
> > > a
> > > > Catholic, and was taking Catholism becasue
> > because
> > > > it was important to him and its critical that
> > kids
> > > > are raised in the church - etc. That's what I
> am
> > > > remembering about communion - I couldn't have
> > > > communion until I was a catholic and then only
> > > after
> > > > confession, and Charlie didn't do communion
> > > because
> > > > he evidently did something he didn't want to
> > > confess
> > > > to. Anyway, in the end the priest and I had a
> > > > falling out about animals going to Heaven -
> and
> > > > Charlie hit me one time to many - so I never
> did
> > > > becaome Catholic even tho I use to enjoy going
> > to
> > > > mass - go figure.
> > > >
> > > >                                TRISHA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> List
> > on
> > > > behalf of ken barber
> > > > Sent: Sat 3/26/2005 11:25 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject:      Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri
> > > Schiavo??
> > > >
> > > > you may be right trish. i am not catholic, i
> was
> > > > raised by a freewill baptist home missionary.
> > > > sometimes known as "tent maker" becouse he
> > worked
> > > a
> > > > full time job and started churches. when they
> > > could
> > > > afford to pay a pastor, he moved on and
> started
>
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