I am not angry. No need to be. It came across to me as get over it. We
aren't able to get many decent to run for office in this country becasue we
love to tear people down and find the dirt and cast doubt on them - be
morally smug and superior. If he said he had forgiven them - there would be
those outraged by that. Just by virtue of making a statement he is wrong. I
happen to know - that 20% of the people are going to disagree with you
before you ever open your mouth and say anything - regardless of what you
are going to say. I would rather have a grizzled warrior - than a yuppy
prince lead me. While the President can make a real ass of himself - its
takes the whole government to run the country amuck. I find we label people
for a certain event or belief and them attribute things to them. You fight
this perception with your disablity. I think it would be nice to extend
understanding and fairness you would want for yourself.

                                       Trisha


> Thinking more about this as I'm troubled by your anger...
>
> I don't believe I am saying "get over it".  Of course that's callous!  No
> one is denying his pain here, least of all me.  But the fact of the matter
> is that the man is wanting to be commander-in chief of the strongest
nation
> in the world.  If Senator McCain is still haunted by these ghosts of the
> past, then I think for the good of the nation that these ghosts be put to
> bed, so to speak.  Arrogance?  Not intended.  Humility? You're absolutely
> right!  I could never be humble enough for what I've been given, nor for
> what I've been forgiven. Gotta admit, though, holding resentment and
hatred
> for past wrongs feels good.  Damn good.   It's like when you haven't had a
> cigarette in a week and you finally get your hands on a smoke.  You feel
> that nicotine hit your brain with a rush and it feels so go-o-o-o-o-d.
The
> downside is that it's killing you, not the shareholders of R.J. Reynolds.
> Same thing goes for the anger.  Who is it hurting?  Certainly not Sen.
> McCain's captors.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: McCain Criticized for Slur
>
>
> Kyle,
>
>        Unless you have been tortured - you have no right to say get over
it.
> I have been there - done that and I would never drream of saying that.
Until
> you understand what its like to have somebeat you until teeth, bones
break,
> repeatly, until you have seen your blood spatter all over walls, until
> someone has held you down screaming and raped you till you bleed and
tear -
> don't even be arrogant enough to say that. You do not get over what
> happens - ever. You move past it, you survive, but on the darkest nights
it
> haunts you, to remain sane and functional in the face of what will kill or
> drive a lessor being to suicide takes a strength of spirit and soul beyond
> your comprehension. It changes who you are and what you value. Go hug your
> wife and babies and be very thankful. Be humble, that your life is nice
> enough - that you can be that arrogant about someone elses pain.
>
>                                        Trisha
>
> > Also, It's been darn near thirty years, but it seems like he's still
> having
> > issues with the Hanoi Hilton.  He needs to forgive and move on.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 7:32 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: McCain Criticized for Slur
> >
> >
> > Kyle et al,
> >
> >     John McCain has a problem with his tongue and temper. That's pretty
> much
> > established. However, the brewhaw coming from his remarks are blown
> totally
> > out of context by our fanticallyt "politically correct" media. The
problem
> > is
> > this obsession with "PC ness" is another tool(weapon, if you will) for
the
> > media and others to sniff out and identify "racists abd bigots". I say
> > poppycock!! Who among is us not racist or bigotted in one manner or
> another.
> > I have told "gimp" jokes, made racial slurs and have told "low rider"
> jokes
> > from my upbringing in Texas.
> >
> >     John McCain is the only real man in the presidential race. He's
> > straight,
> > honest, forth right and shoots from the lip(no typo here). Sadly, these
> are
> > all solid reasons for him not to win. But if he takes CA, NY and OH(TX
> will
> > go Georgie Boy), he still may have a chance.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > Bobby