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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Cerebral Palsy List <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:54:11 -0700
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okay, i thought i'd missed something. i hope if mike
can not afford a lawyer or get help for a suit, maybe
since it is a government agency overstepping their
bounds, his elected reps might can help get them back
in line.   

--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I wasn't responding to Mikes problem exactly. I was
> responding to 
> Anthonys thread which was more a general question
> about DD being 
> victimized and wondering what the correct thing is
> for a woman in 
> that position who may still be in the care of her
> parents. I think 
> Mike is being discriminated against the same as you
> do. It's just 
> that I work in the law and it is not that easy to
> file a federal 
> lawsuit but maybe there are non profit legal orgs
> that could help.
> 
> At 04:32 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> >am i missing some posts? is the woman that mike is
> >wanting to see mentally disabled? or is this the
> girl
> >anthony talked about being picked up and
> disapearing
> >that you are referring to here?
> >
> >--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > >          Yes that's what I was wondering about
> as
> > > well. But then if
> > > you have the maturity of a child but the
> > > chronological age of an
> > > adult do you have the right to engage in sex and
> > > have fun as many
> > > people do. I can see how parents would be upset
> > > especially if
> > > pregnancy is an issue and depending on their
> moral
> > > values.
> > > They used to sterilize people who were
> > > developmentally delayed and I
> > > am against that in every way. I think one reason
> > > this was done was so
> > > routine rape of these individuals would not be
> > > noticed. We have
> > > certainly been in the dark ages with a lot of
> our
> > > thinking on this.
> > >          It doesn't seem fair if a parent is the
> > > guardian for a woman
> > > with the mind of a girl to have to make a
> decision
> > > about a child who
> > > is conceived. Also I think these girls can be
> taken
> > > advantage of.
> > > It's a thorny problem and I just don't know the
> > > answer. I can see how
> > > this would overwhelm a family doing their best
> to
> > > care for a disabled member.
> > >          I also see no reason why the
> > > developmentally delayed should
> > > be denied exploring their sexuality. I also
> think
> > > saying no could be
> > > a problem for DD and so there is a lot of room
> for
> > > exploitation here.
> > >
> > > At 03:11 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> > > >Sometimes this is sticky, I know when I wanted
> to
> > > get my first tattoo, they
> > > >wouldn't give it to me before they knew I was
> > > competent in making my own
> > > >decisions, and I feel we have to realize that
> > > there's some adults with
> > > >disabilities who aren't, and it's our jobs to
> > > protect them.  But however I'm
> > > >willing to listen to other views, but my mom
> has a
> > > friend who's son is
> > > >mentally challenged, and I wouldn't leave him
> alone
> > > for several hours like
> > > >my parents can do with me.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Anthony
> > > >Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > >ken barber
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:11 PM
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> > > >
> > > >er, anthony, theres a difference in a grown man
> > > >picking up and  molesting a teenager than for
> two
> > > >adults in their 30's having a mutual
> relationship
> > > with
> > > >out the government or parents interferring.
> > > >
> > > >--- Anthony Arnold <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I must say I don't know what's being
> discussed
> > > here,
> > > > > but I want to throw out
> > > > > something, but I'm not saying you would be
> > > capable
> > > > > of doing something like
> > > > > this.  I personally know (or knew) a gal who
> > > fitted
> > > > > the MR/DD description,
> > > > > and she was around my age, and she was the
> > > typical
> > > > > teenage girl who enjoyed
> > > > > dressing hot and impressing guys, she
> usually
> > > wore
> > > > > tight clothing and high
> > > > > heels.  Ten years ago this coming fall (hard
> to
> > > > > believe), she was walking
> > > > > home from somewhere, and it's believed that
> a
> > > guy
> > > > > offered her a ride home
> > > > > and a good time, and she hasn't been seen
> since.
> > > > > I'm not suggesting you
> > > > > would, but knowing what they say happened to
> my
> > > > > friend, I can honestly see
> > > > > why they're concerned a little.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Anthony
> > > > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > > Magenta Raine
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:22 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> > > > >
> > > > > mental retardation/developmental
> disabilities
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Come visit my new store! I now carry tee
> shirts
> > > and
> > > > > other items!
> > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/TamarMag
> > > > > visit my Blog at;
> > > > > http://tamarmag-newsletters.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > From: Kathleen Salkin
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Date: 4/9/2006 8:04:06 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Larry King Live last night
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Er, who's MR/DD?  If that's Social
> Services,
> > > they
> > > > > have no business
> > > > > > doing this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9 Apr 2006, at 22:31,
> [log in to unmask]
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > been through enough with her but the
> > > underlying
> > > > > problem comes from
> > > > > > finding
> > > > > > out from others that MR/DD is finding out
> who
> > > else
> > > > > I've ever had
> > > > > > contact  with
> > > > > > and making that I no longer have anything
> else
> > > to
> > > > > do with them.  I'm
> > > > > > not
> 
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