Hi Ken,

  I am taking all of what you guys say - you have the been there done that experience and I would be fool - not to listen to you guys.

                               Trisha


> my advice would be to be blunt. make sure they know
> about cp and ask point blank about it.
> 
> --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Hi Kyle,
> >
> >   That's fine - I won't be on again till Monday. Am
> > taking the girls to =
> > see a College. If anyone out here has good ideas how
> > to appraoch the CP =
> > topic with the college - I am all ears. Hemi's help
> > would great!
> >
> >   I tend to quote - other learned sources simply
> > becasue my ideas - when =
> > I present them are always - pointed out to be less
> > than intelligent so =
> > rather than say - you know I read this and this how
> > I see it - I use =
> > people who you may at least respect a little. I do
> > actually discuss my =
> > ideas with people who respect me, and we expand each
> > others horizons.=20
> >
> > Oh and on the please send prayers and good thoughts
> > - my Mom's stroke =
> > was cause by a clogged artery in her neck - when a
> > piece of the clog =
> > broke off and went into her brain - she will be
> > having a carotid =
> > endarterectomy, in the future. In the mean time she
> > is a bit better and =
> > I am taking care of both of them - after work -
> > house keeping, feeding =
> > and general loving.
> >
> >                                          Trisha
> >
> >
> > > Trisha-
> > >=20
> > > I'll respond in depth later this weekend when I
> > have more time, but =
> > no, I'm
> > > speaking of what one of the authors in you link
> > referred to as =
> > "Pauline"
> > > Christians--at least during that timeframe.  The
> > Gnostics were later =
> > down
> > > the line.
> > >=20
> > > I think the authors raise a red herring about the
> > schisms in the first
> > > century church, but I'll address that in detail
> > later--and I promise I =
> > won't
> > > use someone else's opinion to support my own.
> > Since I profess the =
> > Bible to
> > > be true, it would be hypocritical of me to rest my
> > assertions on the
> > > scholarly work of another.  I think the "law and
> > the prophets" and the =
> > other
> > > writings found in what we call the "bible" are
> > strong enough to stand =
> > on
> > > their own without a Rabbi, Priest or Theo Ph.D.
> > telling us what it all
> > > means.
> > >=20
> > > Kyle
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:50 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: religion and politics (long-ish); was
> > RE: Brother in Law
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Hi Kyle,
> > >=20
> > >    The ancient Eypytians are more the
> > contemporaries of the Jews in =
> > the
> > > beginning. As are the Babylonians and such - these
> > civilzations =
> > pre-date
> > > writing, also pre-date The Greeks and Romans. The
> > Romans are =
> > contemporaries
> > > of the early Christians. I am talking about the 3
> > "in the Beginning =
> > stories"
> > > foround in the Bible. These existed before the
> > writing time - when =
> > they sat
> > > around the fires and handed down the stories.
> > >=20
> > > I think maybe we are both talking about the early
> > Gnostic Christians - =
> > here
> > > a link to that.
> > > =
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/first/diversity.ht=
> > ml
> > >=20
> > > The early Christians were against war -
> > >
> >
> http://www.users.voicenet.com/~kuenning/qhp/dymond.html
> > >=20
> > > We don't need to change each others minds - I am
> > speaking of centuries
> > > before the ones you are. Christianity has its
> > roots in the Jewish =
> > past. They
> > > go back before writting. Lets face it the oldest
> > real religious =
> > artifacts go
> > > back 9,000 years ago, and they are Pagan and we
> > conjecture about it -
> > > becasue no one survives and they had no writing.> 
> > The very roots of =
> > ancient
> > > Jews - are also lost - what we have is what has
> > survived thru oral =
> > tradition
> > > until we had writing.
> > >=20
> > > I am sorry you are not doing well. I will think
> > really good thoughts
> > >=20
> > >                                  Trisha
> 
> 
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