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"Kyle E. Cleveland" <[log in to unmask]>
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A perjorative acronym for "Born Again", I think.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Cleveland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Parenting Series #9 - Ten Reasons Not To Hit You Child


What's a BA?

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> From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Parenting Series #9    - Ten Reasons Not To Hit You Child
> Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:24 PM
>
> Hi Cindy,
>
>         Couple of points here.
>
>         I make no moral choices for anyone else. Please note - yesterday
> about 15 minutes apart I posted opposing views on the spanking issue. Of
> course you do say to me - how openminded and generous - when we all know
I a
> vehemently against violence. To you brought the abortion issue - killing
is
> killing is killing in my view and I choose not to do it - I try to kill
> nothing - I carry bugs outside. I have certainly accidently about 20
years
> ago I hit a squirrel with my car - to this day I remember it and grieve
over
> the little squirrel soul. I would not have an abortion - however, do not
> place myself in the position of God and decided what someone else should
or
> should nor do. I have noticed most Pro_lifer are also very much for the
> Death sentence and guns - etc. So some killing is okay as along as you so
> determine it is and some isn't. In otherwords - you play God.
>
>       I have have been extremely open about the fact I am not, have never
> been and will never be Christian and yet you seek to pursaude me with the
> very book - I do not believe in. Yep, that will certainly change my mind.
> And I don't know whether you are the disabled one or you have a disabled
> spouse or child - but do read Leviticus 21 - verses 16 thru 23 - in the
KJV
> version - which I understand is the irrefuable truth. I  feel it says
much
> about God's views on the disabled - God - speaking to Moses.....
>
>
> 21:16 - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
> 21:17 - Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their
>         generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer
>         the bread of his God.
> 21:18 - For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not
>         approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or
>         any thing superfluous,
> 21:19 - Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
> 21:20 - Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or
>         be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
> 21:21 - No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall
>         come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he
>         hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his
>         God.
> 21:22 - He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of
>         the holy.
> 21:23 - Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the
>         altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my
>         sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.
> 21:24 - And Moses told it unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the
>         children of Israel.
>
>         Seems your "God" feels the disabled are a descration in his
> sanctuaries and doesn't want them there. Gee, certainly,the God I would
want
> if I where disabled.
>
>         The Bible may be quoted to prove or disprove anything - Please
get a
> clue. If you find it necessary to tell your child - Its wrong to hit
another
> person and then hit - spank them to punish them at least have the have
the
> intestinal fortitude to see you are not practicing what you are
preaching.
> So tell your children - you may not hit another person until you have
> children - then it is okay, becasue it is sactioned by GOD.
>
>       Now ,next time - give your own opinion - I respect that. I also can
> quote the Bible to prove anything I want. I am however forbidden to harm.
To
> argue with you - if you are a BA - is an act futility, and to agrue with
> another - could have them question their faith, and be considered an act
of
> harm. Therefore - when I do not refute your Bible verse horse hockey - It
is
> becasue I choose not to Harm, not becasue I can't refute them. I can. Not
> only that I have 3 different versions of the Bible - ironically they all
say
> something very different. I have chosen the above as an example. I
already
> know what your going to say about quoting out of context, and all the
other
> arguements. Let it go - I will never choose Christian over my beliefs -
but
> I also don't expect you to give up your Christian beliefs.
>
>                       Brightest Blessings
>                            Trisha

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