it is up that way somewhere. it has been a while.
while we could not actually talk about missions we
could discuss military strategy in general.
--- "Cleveland, Kyle E."
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> In Carlisle Pa.? Love that place! I installed a
> library system there
> back in the eighties. Such a cool atmosphere!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of ken barber
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:17 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Obama experience
>
> my brother went to the war college so i have learned
> a
> little about military stategy.
>
> --- "Cleveland, Kyle E."
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > You betcha! We'll have a presence (bases) in
> > south-western Iraq, in the
> > rural desert, for a long, long time.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of ken barber
> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:03 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> >
> > i have said for some times when ask why iraq first
> > that one only has to look at the map.
> >
> > --- "Cleveland, Kyle E."
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Kendall,
> > >
> > > I don't think Dubya is terribly Machiavellian in
> > and
> > > of himself. Cheney and that scoundrel Rumsfeld
> on
> > > the other hand...
> > >
> > > Here's a thought about Iraq and
> Machiavellianism:
> > > We went to war on the lamest of "public"
> excuses.
> > > However--and maybe this is the military man in
> me
> > > speaking--we have 125K+ troops in a country that
> > > borders three of the four countries having
> direct
> > > involvement in the events of 9/11: Syria, Iran
> > and
> > > Saudi Arabia. It makes perfect strategic sense
> to
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of Kendall
> D.
> > > Corbett
> > > Sent: Thu 1/10/2008 2:51 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Machiavelli said "it is better to be feared than
> > > loved, if you cannot be
> > > both." There are many that say the present
> > > administration is the most
> > > Machiavellian in the history of the US. All
> > > politicians seem to follow
> > > Machiavelli to an extent, but what of those who
> > > consciously try to not
> > > appear to be Machiavellian? Are they not the
> most
> > > duplicitous of all?
> > >
> > > On Jan 10, 2008 5:51 AM, Cleveland, Kyle E.
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm not so sure it was either passion or
> > self-pity
> > > that provoked the
> > > > tears. I think it may possibly have been a
> > > calculated action to show
> > > > she's not "calculating". She has a rep for
> > being
> > > cold, ya know.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > > Of Kathy
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:30 AM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > >
> > > > Humph, just because a woman cries, it's a
> > negative
> > > thing -- it wasn't a
> > > > pity
> > > > party!
> > > >
> > > > (and besides, she won, so it doesn't seem to
> > have
> > > hurt her chances in
> > > > the
> > > > caucus.)
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:19 AM
> > > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > >
> > > > > looked like a pity party to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I didn't see the entire hilary thing, but
> > what
> > > I did
> > > > >> see was not crying! I saw hilary being
> > > passionate
> > > > >> about the issues she says she cares about.
> > > There is
> > > > >> a difference guys!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > > > >> Tamar Mag Raine
> > > > >> [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > > >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:55:29 PM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > > >>
> > > > >> well Virginia, you told me something I did
> > not
> > > know
> > > > >> about LBJ.
> > > > >> WAR ON POVERTY..LOOKS LIKE POVETY WON!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> WATCHING THE RETURNS, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS
> LIKE
> > > > >> hILLARY'S DEMISE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
> EXAGERATED.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> sorry i can't seem to keep my fingers off
> the
> > > caps
> > > > >> lock for some reason.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- Virginia Perry <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Ken,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > As I understand it, LBJ's health was a
> > > factor. He
> > > > >> > didn't want the American public to lose
> > > another
> > > > >> > sitting president so soon after Kennedy.
> > One
> > > of my
> > > > >> > sources says LBJ had an actuarial study
> > done
> > > in
> > > > >> 1967
> > > > >> > to see how long he had to live. In fact,
> he
> > > died
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > January 1973, so his instinct in that was
> > > pretty
> > > > >> > accurate. Of course, his party wasn't
> very
> > > > >> > supportive, either, due to all the flak
> LBJ
>
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