this article link sent by michael says the percentage of the bradley effect is 2 1/2 points. at todays polling this could cause penn. and virginia to swing. maybe other states. 2 or 3 points in a tight state could loose a state and cost the election. 



--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an statement of a not so good fact
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:52 PM
> That's what I read...   Let me see if I can dig the
> article up.  here it is...
> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_YAHOO_POLL_OBAMA_RACE?SITE=WBZAM&SECTION=POLITICS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-09-21-07-08-29
> 
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>  
> >Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an statement of
> a not so good fact  
> >To: "Michael H. Collis"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >let me be clear? 30% of white DEMOCRATS? did they poll
> independamnts? i'd think they think all republicans are
> out anyway. 
> >
> >
> >--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Michael H. Collis
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an
> statement of a not so good fact
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:13 PM
> >> i know you were messing with me. and I was messing
> right
> >> back.  The fact that some people might not vote
> for Obama
> >> because of prejudice was brought out in an article
> on MSNBC.
> >> The artiicle stated that roughly a third of white
> Dems would
> >> not vote for Obama because they were prejudiced. 
> It's a
> >> sad day.
> >> 
> >> ---- Original message ----
> >> >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:27:42 -0700
> >> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>  
> >> >Subject: a statement of opinion and an
> statement of a
> >> not so good fact  
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >
> >> >i have been messing around with mike for a few
> post. 
> >> >
> >> >do politicians lie? duh? there is an old joke;
> >> "how do you know a politician is lying? , his
> mouth is
> >> moving." 
> >> >
> >> >you see politicians promising lots of things
> and we
> >> know there is not enough money to deliver. we see
> them say
> >> things about something the other one said  and we
> say,
> >> "that is a little out of context."
> >> >
> >> >we see them say something that after you look
> behind
> >> the statement is just a silly innuendo. 
> >> >
> >> >then sometimes we hear something that is just
> a big
> >> whopping lie. 
> >> >
> >> >my opinion is that politicians lie quite a
> bit. 
> >> >
> >> >now the unsavory fact. in the states where the
> polls
> >> show obama leading by 1-3 points in the polls, do
> not be
> >> surprised if he loses the state. there is
> something called
> >> the Bradley effect. basically it is the fact that
> some
> >> people will not tell pollers that they will not
> vote for a
> >> black person but when they vote they do let their
> prejudice
> >> take control. not the way it should be, but it is
> there.
> >> there are not as many bigots as there once was but
> there are
> >> still some bigots out there. 
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >      
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