Amen Hoss.

My Mom would have loved your title for the civil war.  She was the only other
person I've ever heard use that term.

In a message dated 11/02/2001 12:11:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:

> as long as the well armed malitia is not federally controlled. otherwise it
>  defeats the purpose that the founders had in mind. since the war of
northern
>  aggression there has been no independant state militias as envisioned by
the
>  frammers of the constitution. but enough of my digression. you can all read
>  the federalist papers yourselves if you wish to know what was in the
>  founding fathers' minds; something that more than 50 percent of federal
>  judges in the last century have neglected to do or have ignored most of
what
>  they read.
>


Betty
aut viam inveniam aut faciam
"I will either find a way or make one."