i'd better not comment here.
--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Republicans altering convention]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:40 PM
> Maybe because he was the most visible candidate? I'm
> not sure I'd want
> the job as mayor of NO.
>
> Kat
>
> Tamar Raine wrote:
> > obvilously, kat... mayors, gov's, supervisors...
> which is why I was floored when Ray Naglin was re-elected!
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> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:13:40 PM
> > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Republicans altering convention]
> >
> > I hasten to add mayors of that list who need to know
> - they need to
> > work in liason with the state government.
> >
> > Kat
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> > ?? I should think it'd be a basic part of
> procedure that every state
> > governor's staff would know, Mag. I surmise that
> every new governor
> > would need to be briefed on emergency procedure after
> taking office or
> > at least the staff would. Professed ignorance is no
> excuse -- they
> > didn't believe NO and the other areas would be
> badly hit and look at
> > what happened when they didn't take
> responsibility.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > Tamar Raine wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, Kyle, I don't understand why (at the
> time) nobody told Naglin or Gov. Blaanco, that they had to
> declare a state of emergency before they could get federal
> assistance?? I really wonder why no advosors told them. If
> my city or state were getting flooded I would be on the
> phone or pulling out a book to look up procedure!
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> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:39:02 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Republicans altering convention
> >>
> >> While I'm loathe to give the Republicans any
> credit, I have to admit I
> >> side with you on this one, Kyle. FEMA, et al,
> have been prepping for
> >> the Next Big Storm since Katrina, and it's not
> their fault Gustav
> >> happened the same time as their convention and
> you're absolutely right
> >> -- the NOLA officials dropped the ball big time
> with Katrina. It takes
> >> time and money to rebuild and what with all the
> fraud and panc three
> >> years ago, I can see why it's taking time to
> verify things and make sure
> >> things (such as the levees) work. The locals seem
> to be stepping up to
> >> the plate this time as they damn should.
> >>
> >> What people don't remember is that New Orleans
> has had floods ever since
> >> it was established by the French in 1718 - it
> survived them all and will
> >> survive as long as there are people who are
> willing to live there.
> >> Personally you couldn't pay me to live there
> or anywhere near the
> >> Mississippi, but it's a great place to visit
> any time of the year
> >> (except September of course).
> >>
> >> Kat
> >>
> >> Cleveland, Kyle E. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> You're kidding, right? You're saying
> that the logistics involved in dealing with this hurricane
> aren't taxing government transportation infrastructure?
> Ergo, that the fact that public officials may not be able to
> go to Minneapolis because resources are being staged to deal
> with Gustav--AS THEY WERE WITH KATRINA THREE YEARS AGO????
> (Yes, I'm shouting!). Let me 'splain this again:
> Federal resources CANNOT be used, according to the National
> Response Plan (in effect before Katrina), until local and
> then state resources have been exhausted). Local and State
> officials need to request a Declaration of Disaster before
> federal resources can be used. The blame for Katrina's
> effects on NOLA lies squarely at the doorsteps of Ray Nagin
> and Kathleen Blanco.
> >>>
> >>> Please, Google the "National Response
> Plan" (NRP). The DHS/FEMA website will give you a
> basic understanding of how this business works. It
> doesn't have a *&^%^!-ing thing to do with the
> "sensitivity to folks in Louisiana".
> >>>
> >>> Lawton Chiles (Florida governor during Andrew)
> failed to follow the existing requirement that the state
> executive MUST declare a disaster and make the request for
> federal aid--especially military aid--before Federal
> resources can be dispatched. US Marines from Mayport NAS
> had Water Buffalos (mobile potable water tanks) staged at
> the fence at Homestead AFB to fill Homestead's
> resident's water containers. They could not fill the
> containers because Chiles had not followed the simple
> procedures that would have allowed federal troops to provide
> assistance. At the time, the Coast Guard was not
> "technically" part of the US Armed Forces and
> their units could be self-dispatched to provide aid.
> Federal troops, such as the Marines, must follow narrow
> guidelines to use military equipment and personnel in
> non-Federal operations (ref. U.S. Code Title 32).
> >>>
> >>> My God, man, do you think that there is a
> political agenda behind everything that "the
> Republicans" do? Sometimes, just sometimes, Republican
> politicians actually do their jobs according to the laws set
> down before them. Democrats work the same way. Granted,
> both work the system, but there are some parts of Federal
> law that are so black and white that the system overides any
> political machinations.
> >>>
> >>> I invite you to study the chonology of
> Katrina's effect on Mississippi and how Gov. Haley
> Barbour handled his crisis. I suppose, though, since
> Barbour is a Republican, it was the power of the "vast
> right-wing conspiracy" that forced him to follow the
> guidelines of the NRP, thus minimizing the response and
> recovery efforts in his state.
> >>>
> >>> Kyle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "The views expressed here are mine and do
> not reflect the official position of my employer or the
> organization through which the Internet was accessed"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>> From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of Anthony
> Arnold
> >>> Sent: Sun 8/31/2008 7:02 PM
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Republicans altering convention
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm liking how the Republicans are
> altering their convention to show
> >>> sensitivity to the folks in Louisiana and
> offering assistance. Do they think
> >>> by responding quicker, we are going to forget
> about 3 years ago? I don't
> >>> know about any of you, but I am going to vote
> for Obama based on the past 8
> >>> years not the past 2 months. I feel for the
> folks in Louisiana, but the
> >>> Republicans are a different story.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Anthony Arnold
> >>> Remote Troubleshooter for PRC
> >>>
> >>> 1-800-262-1984 ext. 494
> >>>
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