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Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:38:28 -0700
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well, you get to forbidding the states to define
marriage as one man and one woman and pandora's box is
opened IMHO. of course i am not an enlightened
liberal, i am just an old bigoted conservative, so
what would i know. 


--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think it's a red herring. Monogamy without gender
> bias is very 
> different than polygamy. Gay marriage is not the
> same as polygamy. 
> However even though supremacist polygamists (they
> all are by the way) 
> meet gays with baseball bats, the powers that want
> to see it 
> legalized have no compunction about trying to mix
> the two things 
> together. The irrational thinking at hand is if they
> legalize gay 
> marriage, then we can have polygamy back and I think
> this power play 
> is coming from the Mormon Church.
> The UN Commission on the Elimination of
> Discrimination towards Women 
> and Children identifies polygamy as inherently
> biased. How do you 
> care for 50 children without falling heavily on the
> taxpayers, living 
> in abject poverty or doing something illegal to get
> the necessary money.
> 
> At 12:25 AM 4/22/2006, you wrote:
> >My boyfriend predicted the slipperly slope when
> Massachusetts allowed
> >gay marriages, and I saw that happening, too. 
> Unfortunately, I think
> >the only way they're going to stop any of the
> polygamous marriages is
> >via financial pressures same as the actions against
> the KKK and other
> >supremacist groups.
> >
> >If I were Mr. Jeffs, I'd be putting that gaggle of
> girls into more
> >modern clothing to escape detection.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 21 Apr 2006, at 16:13, Linda Walker wrote:
> >
> >Yes there is finally some movement but lots of
> mishandling by
> >authorities as well. Tell me why our premier law
> enforcement the FBI
> >cannot pick up a 6 1/2 foot tall man traveling
> around the country
> >with a gaggle of girls in nineteenth century dress
> and a dozen armed
> >bodyguards. Warren Jeffs has been on their most
> wanted list for over
> >a year and one half and we've reported his
> whereabouts twice and both
> >times they blew the pick up. It's distressing
> because every child
> >inside that compound is at risk.
> >
> >And don't even get me started on the subtle effort
> to legalize
> >polygamy in this country tying it to gay rights.
> >
> >At 09:56 AM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
> > > Probably not, but it may be a step in the right
> direction, especially
> > > since the group is being pressured internally as
> well as externally.
> > > External pressure often serves to unite fringe
> groups, while internal
> > > conflict is more often destructive to group
> unity.
> > >
> > > Kendall=20
> > >
> > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> > >
> > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> the unreasonable one
> > > persists in trying to adapt the world to
> himself. Therefore, all
> > > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > >
> > > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linda Walker
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> > > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:19 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamists may go the
> way of Al Capone
> > >
> > > As someone who has worked on this civil and
> human rights abuse
> > > issue=20
> > > for over twenty years I can tell you it is not
> that easy.
> > >
> > > At 05:14 AM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
> > > >The polygamist group in southern Utah and
> Northern Arizona looks like
> > > it
> > > >might get dismantled by state tax collectors,
> and internal politics.
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > >
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/21/us/21taxes.html?
> > > _r=3D3D1&th&emc=3D3Dth=
> > > &or
> > > ef=3D
> > > >=3D3Dsl
> > > >ogin
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > > >Kendall=3D20
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > > >An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > > >The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> the unreasonable one
> > > >persists in trying to adapt the world to
> himself. Therefore, all
> > > >progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
> > > >-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > > >
> > > >=3D20
> > > >
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