Linda and others,
Here's a link to one history of polygamy within the LDS Church. It
specifically mentions the polygamist sect in Hilldale UT and Colorado
City, AZ.
http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/p/POLYGAMY.html
Transcript of an interview with Orrin Hatch discussing polygamy.
http://www.polygamyinfo.com/media%20plyg%2051%20trib.htm
As I read the interview, Senator Hatch is saying the current laws and
Supreme Court decisions regarding polygamy could be overturned on
Constitutional grounds, not that he supports the practice. The risk of
this are higher, IMHO, with the current conservative bent of the Supreme
Court.
Try as I might, I can not find a single site _sponsored_ by Senator
Hatch where he supports polygamy.
Section from the Utah Constitution specifically forbidding polygamy:
Article XXIV, Section 2. [Territorial laws continued.]
All laws of the Territory of Utah now in force, not repugnant to
this Constitution, shall remain in force until they expire by their own
limitations, or are altered or repealed by the Legislature. The act of
the Governor and Legislative Assembly of the Territory of Utah,
entitled, "An Act to punish polygamy and other kindred offenses,"
approved February 4th, A.D. 1892, in so far as the same defines and
imposes penalties for polygamy, is hereby declared to be in force in the
State of Utah.
Linda, the question I asked remains from when you brought this up the
last time:
"Why is it OK to attack a specific faith on the list, but apparently not
OK to say things _in support of_ a specific faith, or to attack other
faiths?"
Kendall
An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:55 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story a rant
Kendall,
The LDS in my opinion are guilty as sin for allowing this to go on
for so long. Renouncing something with one face while you turn your
back on the injustice and watch it proliferate in that church state
Utah is not ok with me. We've been trying to get the LDS to pay
attention to this for years and they swept it under the rug as long
as they could. Many died as a result of their self righteous
indifference. What did any one of your friends ever do to stop it?
See what I mean. I am mad as hell at the LDS and especially those in
positions to have done something. It's been a long hard road waking
them up. Now all they can do is say it's not us. Sorry, not good
enough. It is people from their own families who continued the
practice. Nearly all old time Mormons come from polygamy including
Senator Hatch who has pro polygamy stuff on his web site. You can't
believe how hard it's been to wake up the LDS. Nonetheless also
really happy he is caught and now the FBI needs to charge him up.
Before they fenced off the graveyard in there, I documented that over
50% of the graves were children under 10 and 58 graves were entirely
unmarked. It is a killing field in there and the public does not know
how really grievous it is yet but they will.
Imagine if the Army came across 58 unmarked baby graves, little
mounds in the sand in Iraq. There would be a huge outcry but we have
had a really difficult time getting people to listen. The FBI made
fun of Flora and I when we turned in our evidence to them. They
wanted nothing to do with it but we finally forced the issue. A few
activists ...
At 08:00 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>Linda,
>
>Really glad they caught this scum-bag! Out here in Wyoming and Utah, =
>it's been _big_ news, and my Mormon friends are uniformly happy that =
>he's been caught, as too many people don't differentiate between the =
>FLDS sect that Jeffs ran (runs), and the LDS Church, which renounced =
>polygamy in the 1890's.
>
>Kendall=20
>
>An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
>
>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one =
>persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all =
>progress depends on the unreasonable man.
>
>-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mary Katherine Powers [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 6:15 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story
>
>I'm really glad that you've done such great work! that's wonderful. I
=
>know it's extremely frustrating, though.
>=20
>I am slowly working on becoming active in the child abuse =
>prevention/recovery field myself. So far all I've managed to do is =
>donate to RAINN and do some volunteer work for them. I also try to
give =
>information on trauma to people who seem to need it. It is so
important =
>to work in this field because there are so many awful things that go
on, =
>and "the system" is often not helpful (to put it mildly). =20
>=20
>It sounds like you've been active for a long time and done a lot of =
>really good things. I'll check out your website.
>=20
>Mary Katherine=20
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 6:21 AM
>Subject: Re: Polygamy Story
>
>
>Kudos on your work, Linda! You did made a reference to the polygamy
cult =
>one time when you said how the FBI couldn't catch the polygamist with a
=
>gaggle of teenaged girls in long skirts and bonnets. I understand he
was =
>only with a few people when he was caught in a traffic stop. I think =
>life on the run take so much planning and effort just to stay under the
=
>radar, that it's the little things that trip up the fugitives.=20
>=20
>Kat=CE=20
>=20
>On 6 Sep 2006, at 03:35, Linda Walker wrote:=20
>=20
>Hello Everyone:=20
>=20
>I've never brought this up on list but it seems ok to talk about things
=
>other than CP and this issue, along with helping Case is a big part of
=
>my life.=20
>Don't know if anyone is watching the polygamy story on CNN and Larry =
>King, among other shows. Just letting you know that it is part of my =
>civil and human rights work I have been doing for years. I was the
first =
>person on the web ranting about this and Flora Jessop, a true hero, is
=
>the spokesperson for this issue from Child Protection Project, a group
I =
>founded. Case has met Flora and seen her on tv although his parents =
>won't let him watch most of it and I agree with that but he knows his =
>Nana fights the bad guys.=20
>I know it is not CP related except that so many polygamy kids are =
>subject to difficult births, have disabilities, and not getting the =
>health care they need. It is a very sad story and we have not broken
all =
>the elements of it yet. My non profit is www.childpro.org.=20
>I am pretty proud of this life long work because now that the full
story =
>is getting out people (including my own adult children) have stopped =
>calling me a crazy exaggerator. Now it's, "Mom, I heard your story on =
>public radio or the like." The fact is it is impossible to exaggerate =
>how bad it is in there. Even the newscasters are having trouble
wrapping =
>their minds around it. So why can we implement democracy in Afghanistan
=
>and save the women behind the veil there but we can do nothing to stop
=
>this in our own country? Many things disgust me but none as much as =
>this.=20
>Larry King was supposed to do a show on this tomorrow but he is doing =
>Tom Cruise baby pictures instead! Wow, that's more newsworthy I guess
in =
>this news as entertainment industry. The show will run eventually. It's
=
>on the documentary Banking on Heaven about polygamy.=20
>=20
>All the best to everyone,=20
>=20
>Linda=20
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