Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Helloo,
>
>             I don't think I bashed anyone - In fact I do
> believe I said the guys on this list - have gone a long way
> towards showing me a different type of man - If I remember
> corrctly I teasing said - Ken and Kyle - altho they don't walk
> on water yet( like Bobby)  - are only ankle deep ( a joke ). I
> encluded a LOL after that. I posted something for Mom's - and
> it looked like it may have ruffled some male feather

Looking back on this thread I'm having a little difficulty in
locating the male feathers not in A1 preened condition. The first
male to contribute was Ken who gave an interesting (and
heartfelt) account of his own child rearing experience. When
Trisha posted:-

> > I think most Dad's solve that problem by handing the kid to
> > MOM!! good for you if you didn't!!

Kyle stated:-

> > I'm not so sure I agree about most Dad's today...if they're
> > around.  Most fathers I know (WASPs), if they're in the home,
> > do contribute significantly. Still, not to the same level as
> > Mom, but much more so than when we were babies.  Of course,
> > my experience is with middle-class midwesterners--other
> > groups may be different.
> >

still pristine flight accoutrements in my opinion!! But in
Trisha's opinion:-

> > And for all the guys - who are jumping on this as insult
> > becasue its not including them -some Mother wrote that.

I'm afraid I must have missed something because I could find no
guys "jumping on this as insult".

What can be seen is the stereo-typical assumption that "most"
men are not interested/involved in the day to day issues of child
rearing, and the gentle reminders from two posters that this may
not necessarily be true (as so many stereo-types aren't).

It might be thought that propagation of this stereo-type could be
seen as "male bashing", despite assertions that it is not meant
to be.

Cheers (just my two pennorth)

--
Deri James