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thanks kyle, i had not considered that, i'll have to pay attention. be sure to get my advair and hope for the best.  


--- On Tue, 5/20/08, Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: must see/do yellowstone
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 10:44 AM
> Ken, I forgot one more thing.  You said that you had been
> dx'd recently
> with COPD.  Be really careful about exerting yourself at
> the high
> altitudes you'll encounter.  I'm in pretty good
> shape, cardio-vascular
> wise, but boy do I start sucking air when I get near 10K
> feet.  If
> you're not careful you'll get a killer headache and
> a little panicky
> because it doesn't seem like you can catch your breath.
> 
> Kyle
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Cleveland, Kyle E.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: must see/do yellowstone
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I just got Kendall's accessible/Chamber of Commerce
> links.  Thanks,
> Kendall!
> 
> First of all, Ken, you have to make sure to check your
> expectations.
> You're headed into Yellowstone during the absolute peak
> of the season.
> Traffic can get as bad as downtown Atlanta--and that's
> no exaggeration.
> See Old Faithful and the touristy sites if you must, but I
> think you
> will have a far more relaxed time if you get off the beaten
> path a bit,
> and that doesn't mean you need to put on your hiking
> boots either.  It
> may mean a bit more driving, but rent yourself a little
> Ford Focus and
> you should be good to go.
> 
> Things not to be missed:
> 
> The Continental Divide at Togwotee (pronounced
> TOG-ah-tee)Pass.  You can
> take US 89 from the SE corner of Yellowstone and pick up 26
> East at
> Moran Junction.  You'll be able to tell when you're
> getting close to the
> pass because the weather will chill very quickly and it
> will probably be
> raining or snowing on top (even though it's in the 80s
> in Moran).  My
> son and I get a real kick out of peeing on the western side
> then
> swinging 180 deg and peeing to the east.
> 
> As you drive down 89 you can see the Tetons on your left. 
> This is
> pretty spectacular because the landscape is fairly flat
> right up to the
> base of the mountains.  The valley near Moran is about
> 6700', but the
> mountains are between 12,000' - 14,000'.  You can
> be fifty miles out and
> they look like they're about 100 yards ahead.  These
> are "new" mountains
> that were created by abrupt tectonic lift, so the east side
> (valley)
> fell and the west side shoved up a mile and a half.
> 
> Also, if the mood strikes, you can continue on 26 East. 
> Brooks Lake,
> just east of the continental divide, has a ****-load of
> bears.  Still
> further east is the town of Dubois, which, to me, is
> Paradise on earth.
> Torrey Canyon is just east of town and you can get out of
> your car and
> walk around the big horn sheep ewes and lambs like it was a
> petting zoo
> (the rams stay higher up).  You can find all sorts of
> fossils and
> artifacts just strewn about in the canyon.
> 
> You gotta take one of the boxcar cable trams that haul
> skiers up to the
> tops of the mountains in winter.  The views are incredible
> and you can
> see all sorts of wildlife from above.  They operate year
> round, but they
> can close down when the wind gets too strong.  We got stuck
> on the top
> of Mt. Moran a few years ago when a freak wind storm hit 90
> mph, All I
> had on was an unlined GoreTex jacket.  Even if it's a
> hundred in the
> shade...take a warm jacket wherever you go in MT or WY!
> 
> Another cool place just to the east of Yellowstone Park is
> Cody, WY.
> Take 287 South to 14 East.  The Buffalo Bill museum is
> there, and that's
> really cool.  Lots of rodeo action in town, too.  If you
> guys are
> planning on getting food/snacks/drinks to last you through
> the week,
> Cody's the cheapest place to stock up outside of
> Bozeman.  
> 
> The folks in the small towns around Yellowstone are
> extremely friendly.
> The tourists are often not.  Keep a close eye on your
> valuables and keep
> your money in your front pocket.  Keep your situational
> wits about you
> as people aren't expecting crime and that's the way
> the bad guys like
> it.
> 
> One final thing:  If you drive at night, go slow and be
> careful!  You
> might notice as you drive on roads outside the park that
> there are
> sections of pipe laid into grooves cut across the pavement
> about four
> inches apart.  These are cattle guards to keep cattle from
> crossing from
> one ranch to the other.  Their hooves slip between the
> pipes, so they
> just won't cross them.  However, lots roads run smack
> dab through the
> middle of pasture ground.  Since it gets pretty cold at
> night the cattle
> like to lie down right in the middle of the road and absorb
> the heat
> from the dark pavement that's been absorbing the sun
> all day.  Hitting a
> cow in a rental car in the middle of nowhere squared is not
> fun.
> 
> Kyle
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of ken barber
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: must see/do yellowstone
> 
> okay guys i need you all to give me some "must
> see/do"s for yellowstone.
> have any of you been to the park. 
> of course keep in mind that i have cp but my wife and kid
> do not. they
> may wish to hike out and be eaten by a grizzly and i might
> not could
> make the hike. :-)    i'd do something else (actually
> judy and i would
> do something else) while benjamin hiked. 
> 
> give me your list. 
> 
>   
> 
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