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Quite possibly; my point is that the LDS majority in Utah has been
decreasing since 1989, and is projected to continue to do so; therefore,
it's status as a "Mormon State" is not something that is a "given."  I
came across the chart when I was looking for solid data on LDS members
in Utah State government, which I was unfortunately, unable to find.  

Another link I sent showed Utah to have low infant mortality rates,
relatively high birth rates within intact families (among the top 5 in
the US), as well as higher numbers of intact families in general.  So if
the number of LDS church members is decreasing in Utah, it must be due,
at least in part to in-migration, or people leaving church membership
rolls.  I do think that a fairly large number of people that leave the
LDS church, for whatever reason, remain "culturally Mormon" (At least
until they can't take any more green Jell-o or "funeral potatoes."
;-{)}

Kendall 

An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.

-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story a rant

Don't you think those decreasing numbers could be explained by the  
influx of new residents?

Kat


On 7 Sep 2006, at 19:03, Kendall David Corbett wrote:

Interesting charts on Utah demographic shifts from 1989 to 2004.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site297/2005/0726/20050726_1
01404_DTTTRB24A10.PDF



Kendall

An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.

-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story a rant

You know ... this is all very interesting to me because whilst I'm
quite liberal and believe that anyone has got the freedom to worship
as they please, I also believe that  you must heed the dictum that no
harm should befall others.  But as an American, I also advidly
believe in the Bill of Rights which guarantee the freedom of religion
to all Americans, and I also believe in the separation between church
and state.

So where do we draw the line?  Polygamy by consenting adults
theoretically should be OK (that is, if you go by the Bill of Rights)
and the government shouldn't have the right to interfere.  On the
other hand, the ethical scientific side of me cringes because of the
higher possibility of genetic abnormalties and the higher risk of
miscarriages, not to mention that if you try to limit the
participation to a small group of people, practically speaking, you
would run out of age-eligible wives fairly quickly - and thus that's
probably the main reason so much polygamous activity is underaged.
If you do the maths, this is obvious.

In any case, our society does not support such a structure which is
good - but this does make for interesting discussions such as the one
I had with David last night on this subject!

Kat


On 7 Sep 2006, at 16:46, Kendall David Corbett wrote:

Mike,

<cut for brevity, to spare other's inboxes! ;) )

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