sorry you got in so late, maybe more tomorrow, but,
acording to those harvard guys this is suppoe to be
revenue neautral. the gaps would not be bigger, but,
they would not get smaller unless like they
predicted the ecconomy would grow and bring in more,
but, predictions are not really money into the bank.
and we have no history to go on in this case.
good night again.
> --- Elizabeth Thiers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I can definitely tell you that charities can't
> take
> > up the slack. There's
> > no gurantee of money coming in. We work
> specifically
> > to take up the slack in
> > government and private insurance and we are
> swamped
> > with kids needing help.
> >
> > Beth t the OT
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > On Behalf Of Kathy Salkin
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:51 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: tax time is the pits
> > >
> > > No, my net pay does not show my true pay, nor
> does
> > it show
> > > the true amount of taxes. I also pay sales
> taxes
> > locally as
> > > well as property taxes. My employer pays into
> my
> > social
> > > security as well as Medicare. Do I resent the
> > taxation? No,
> > > because without it, other people would be a lot
> > worse off
> > > without local government-sponsored health care
> or
> > other programs.
> > >
> > > I also donate to charities but I think if there
> > were no
> > > social welfare or other government-funded
> > programs, charities
> > > and other non- profits would not be able to make
> > up the
> > > shortfall. I don't believe in handouts but I
> > don't believe
> > > in abandoning those in need of our help, either.
>
> > Now whether
> > > someone decides to accept that help is their own
> > decision but
> > > it should be there if they need it.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 25, 2007, at 5:09 PM, ken barber wrote:
> > >
> > > > the fair tax fully finances the government
> > programs.
> > > > just not with a income tax. it does relieve
> the
> > poor from
> > > paying any
> > > > taxes. even the social security tax is taken
> > away.
> > > > and again you have 2 defrees because you
> chose
> > to get two
> > > degrees.
> > > > again that choice might have been enabled by
> > having some
> > > finances that
> > > > others do not, but, some is just unforunate
> and
> > some is
> > > choices made.
> > > > but even if people are poor becouse of their
> > choices, if
> > > they want to
> > > > do better, then help them do so.
> > > > again how much do you feel comfortable with
> th
> > government
> > > taking. of
> > > > course you know that what you see on the check
> > stub is not
> > > all the tax
> > > > you pay.
> > > >
> > > > --- Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Ken,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a good job and two degrees and I am
> much
> > better off
> > > than those
> > > >> less fortunate in society. I also believe we
> > have an
> > > obligation to
> > > >> support our fellow man for the common good;
> > unfortunately not
> > > >> everyone who is well off will be inclined to
> > support those less
> > > >> fortunate than they, and I think a fair tax
> > goes a long
> > > way towards
> > > >> helping others and our government to achieve
> > their goals.
> > > >>
> > > >> Consider this, then, since you seem to be so
> > much against taxes -
> > > >> without taxes, we would not be able to
> support
> > our troops or our
> > > >> veterans although if you ask me, we have too
> > little
> > > oversight in that
> > > >> area at the moment. Conditions at the
> military
> > and veterans'
> > > >> hospitals are a disgrace to our military.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kat
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mar 25, 2007, at 11:41 AM, ken barber
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> although i do think no tax at all is better.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> why should distributing wealth be one of the
> > > >> purposes
> > > >>> of taxes?
> > > >>> i agree that it is, but why should it be?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Sunday 25 March 2007 04:13, ken barber
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>> did you study the plan?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Of course!! Can't think of an "unfairer"
> way
> > of
> > > distributing wealth
> > > >>>> (which is one of the purposes of taxation).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Did you read the interview with Edward
> Wolff
> > at
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> <http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2003/03may/
> > > >>> may03interviewswolff.html>?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Cheers
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Deri
> > > >>>>
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