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Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Kat,

  The really silly thing here is the ignorance of what's actaully happening in real world. Gay couple live together, the acquire children, have houses, get sick get old and die. Not making the relationship doesn't change reality. Nor make anyone become ungay, it simply robs people of dignity and rights. I support gay marraige have you seen the length of some of the relationships of the people who want to get married? They have logged some serious years. And it would seem about making a commitment whether or not its a publicly approved thing. 

The same thing happens with ployamory, which by the way is alive and well and operating in your community. You would be amazed how many people operate under the radar living quietly as they chose. You cannot legislate how people will live, they will do it their way, regardless. In the end its not about marriage, or multiple partners its about the threat of someone being different and you ability to force them to be like you. 

Frankly, with the divorce rate as it is(50% of 1st marriages, 50% of 2nd marriages and 16% of 3rd marraiges) - why aren't people more concerned with the folks who walk out on the commitments - single mom and kids - there is group that suffers( and are on welfare!!). The whole marriage thing needs to be examined - obviously something that worked when people died like flys is not working now. We need to fine something that does work. 

                            Trisha

-----Original Message-----
From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of Kathleen Salkin
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Polygamists may go the way of Al Capone


OK I think that no matter what happens in the matter of civil unions =20
and legal marriages, a line will be drawn at the age of consent.  I =20
honestly think it's no one else's business what a consenting adult =20
does in his or her private life but a child is another matter.

And yes, I support gay marriages and I think it's high time that we =20
allow a=86 least civil unions.  I think we are creating a lot of hurt =20=

by not supporting gay unions.   Ken, it's not just homosexuals who =20
want gay civil unions but also straight people who think they should =20
be allowed legal rights to properties and assets the same as  =20
straight married couples.

Kat


On 22 Apr 2006, at 19:29, ken barber wrote:

becouse that is not what the homosexuals want. you
know it, i know it, and everyone else knows it.

hey, why can't a man have civil unions with 6 women or
vice versa?

there are those out there who want to "marry" little
children.

animals have rights says some. there are a few that
woant to "marry" animals.

hey if a guys loves his horse who am i to forbid the
"marriage" as long as he does not hurt me. after all
it is love that matters.

hey, no holds barred. that is what is wanted.

--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Ken, why can't there be civil unions as well as
> marriages?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Polygamists may go the way of Al Capone
>
> well, you get to forbidding the states to define
> marriage as one man and one woman and pandora's box
> is
> opened IMHO. of course i am not an enlightened
> liberal, i am just an old bigoted conservative, so
> what would i know.
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