I was freaking out about all this quite a bit, especially since I am quite
healt conscious... (into organic food, recycling, we have back yard
chickens, we are vegetarian, definitely want agains the antibiotics and
groth hormones etc.) and started reading up on studies. There was a study
and I forgot by who (I'm really bad with names), that was indicating that
there was a lot of difference, and that has been disputed. The best
indicator when your daughter will start her period is really when mom
started her perod. And like our case, mine was early, Tusku's was a bit
earlier. That seems to be the norm, not that lots of girls are starting
hugely early. Now IMHO there is a serious mistake by nature, god of what
ever evolution that girls 9,10 or even 12 or 13 would be having periods
especially with an ability to conceive. But at the same time, I don't want
to monger any fears (like I was worried) that there is a huge difference.
I'm sure the guys are modern enough to handle a little talk about periods
and yougn women, being that many are husbands and dads with daughters. My
daughter's period actually started the night before me going into surgery!!!
She was helped at school by other women, but the night of my surgery, my 13
yo son was home with my 2 daughters and was big enough to be able to
comfortable help his sister, to remind her to change her pad and see to it
that she did it. (My daughter has mild cp and Downs syndrome).
Anu and Tuisku 910)
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Thank you so much for the information. I am all too glad I no longer have
> to
> worry about this.
>
> However it has been verified that more girls are getting their periods
> earlier than previous generations - the norm used to be around 15; mine
> started at age 12 and now 10 seems to be more frequent. We are talking
> statistics here, not individuals - as with any health studies there will
> always be individual cases that fall outside the norm.
>
> I think we have squicked the guys here on the list. ;)
>
> Kat
> List Mum
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Anu Arsalo <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
>
> > There has been a lot of talk about this, but apparently there is not much
> > difference that girls are going into puperty much earlier than in the
> past.
> > The normal age for puberty for girls is 9-14 and that has not changed.
> If
> > the puberty starts earlier, it is called precocious puberty and there is
> > usually a medical problem underlying the reason for going into puberty
> > earlier.
> > My daugther is 10 and just recently started her period. She was 10 and 3
> > months when she started. I was 10 and 11 months when I started, so yes
> > she
> > was earlier than me, but not significantly earlier.
> > There is a whole lot on this on the web. I copied below what one site
> was
> > saying.
> >
> > Anu and Tuisku (having her 2nd period right now at 10 and 4 months)
> >
> >
> > Overview
> >
> > Puberty is the time during which sexual and physical characteristics
> > mature.
> > Precocious puberty is when these body changes happen earlier than normal.
> > Symptoms
> >
> > In girls, precocious puberty is when any of the following develop before
> > age
> > 8:
> >
> > - Armpit or pubic hair
> > - Beginning to grow faster
> > - Breasts
> > - First period (menstruation)
> > - Mature outer genitals
> >
> > Some evidence suggests that it may be normal for these changes to occur
> as
> > early as age 7 in Caucasian girls and age 6 in African-American girls.
> >
> > In boys, precocious puberty is when any of the following develop before
> age
> > 9:
> >
> > - Armpit or pubic hair
> > - Growth of the testes and penis
> > - Facial hair, often first on the upper lip
> > - Muscle growth
> > - Voice change (deepening)
> >
> > Treatment
> >
> > Medications can stop the release of sexual hormones. Some tumors need to
> be
> > removed with surgery.
> > Causes
> >
> > Puberty usually begins between ages 10 and 14 for girls, and ages 12 and
> 16
> > for boys. Some African American girls may start puberty earlier, around
> age
> > 9.
> >
> > The exact age a child enters puberty depends on a number of factors,
> > including family history, nutrition, and gender.
> >
> > Often there is no clear cause for precocious puberty, but some cases are
> > due
> > to changes in the brain, genetic problems, or certain tumors that release
> > hormones. These conditions include:
> >
> > - Congenital adrenal
> > hyperplasia<
> > https://health.google.com/health/ref/Congenital+adrenal+hyperplasia>
> > - Disorders of the testicles, ovaries, or adrenal glands
> > - Hypothalamic hamartoma
> > - McCune-Albright
> > syndrome<https://health.google.com/health/ref/McCune-Albright+syndrome>
> > - Tumors that release a hormone called hCG
> > -
> > -
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Kathy Pink <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > omg! It is hard enough to have a baby under twenty.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kathy Jo Pink
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:35:01 -0500
> > > > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Disability groups slam move to sterilize disabled girl,
> 11
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > Research shows that girls are getting their periods younger and
> younger
> > > > these days; it's not unheard of to hear of 5 year olds having
> periods.
> > > Many
> > > > experts think it's exposure to toxins or overuse of antibiotics in
> > animal
> > > > feed that get into our bodies.
> > > >
> > > > But I do have to agree with you on this, too.
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > what? 11 year olds get their cycles at that age? i was 15! anyway,
> in
> > > this
> > > > > case i think it's warrented. imagine a 3 year old having a baby.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tamar
> > > > >
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