how right you are. 

--- "Cleveland, Kyle E."
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Actually, Linda, I think you'll find that the bulk
> of school shooting
> incidents are by kids that have been bullied, not
> the other way around.
> 
> All the training in the world does not change
> hearts--especially kids.
> If these were effective tools we'd have little drug
> use in school,
> limited teen pregnancy rates, cigarette smoking
> among the young would be
> declining instead of increasing.  A lot of research
> points to the
> destruction of the nuclear family as a major cause
> of these ills--we
> can't paper that over with "training".
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Linda Walker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Let's Shift Gears ....
> 
> Bullies these days are taking guns to school and
> shooting people. I 
> think we need more training on understanding the
> other guys point of 
> view, on how important diversity is, and on kindness
> and compassion. 
> Kids are tough. They have to deal with all kinds of
> adult realities 
> at much earlier ages than before - drugs in junior
> high, sexual 
> acting out from I think too much exposure by what is
> portrayed in the 
> media, early onset puberty, societal violence so
> that they are not 
> even playing outside in many neighborhoods.  We need
> health care and 
> family stability. Who are the bullies anyhow. Kids
> who are not 
> getting what they need at home and in school to
> progress successfully.
> 
> At 12:11 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote:
> >You know, I read an article recently in which a
> researcher was quoted
> as
> >saying we need to let our kids learn to deal with
> bullies - you  know,
> >let them toughen up.  It seems we are raising a
> generation of whiny
> >brats who can't deal with the realities of life.  
> I have to say I kind
> >of agree with him.
> >
> >Kat
> >
> >Deri James wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 02:05:02 kat wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for setting us straight, Deri! Now
> you've got me feeling
> sick
> > >> that a disabled person can use her disability
> to "beat the system."
> Ugh!
> > >> Gives the rest of us a bad name.
> > >>
> > >> Kat
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hi Kat,
> > >
> > > I do not know if I'm right, its just that I
> realised while 
> > reading that if you
> > > take away the disability element the things she
> describes happen to
> many,
> > > many people, who do not have the opportunity to
> sue.
> > >
> > > Also, I realised that it seems the whole case
> revolves around her 
> > disability,
> > > the article says she is actually suing the
> company for sexual
> harrassment
> > > (not discrimination - probably because all her
> cited instances of
> > > discrimination occurred outside work in a social
> setting).
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Deri
> > >
> >
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