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Good Day -

Anee, Why don't you think IQ tests should be done on all people with
Cerebral Palsy ?  People really don't understand CP around here .

Kathy





----- Original Message -----
From: Anee Stanford <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: learning abilities/communication


> Good day-
>
> I don't think that IQ tests should be done at all on people with CP--at
least
> not the way they are currently used. The only way that you get accurate
> results when you do one of those on a person with CP is if the examiner
> really KNOWS about the disability in the first place and KNOWS what he/she
is
> doing.  This dosn't often happen in the public school systems and it is to
> our detriment because they use those things to place kids with
disabilities
> often with out understanding the disability for it's self and it is hard
for
> the students/parents to fight a peace of paper.
>
> The last time I was tested I was psych tested for the colleges disability
> services and the PhD phycologist who did it did a really good job even
> skiping parts of the tests that would not come out accuratly becasue of
> physcial limitations.  Often that is not the case when they are done in
K-12.
>
>
> I just don't think public schools have the time and resourcees and
patients
> it takes to do the testing right and they are looking at it more for
> placement and cost controll then necessarily what will help the student be
> most productive, which is unfortunet.  Let's face it, it is a lot less
> expensive to stick a bright kid whith sever physical disability in a
special
> ed room than to assign and pay an aid, or make adaptions so the person can
be
> in the mainstreem class room part or all of the time.
>
> But thankfully the parents and studnets have the right to protest the
schools
> findings and if you don't agree with the recomendations don;t sign off on
the
> IEP until you and the school agree with services that you and your child
know
> are correct for your child.
>
> P.S. I started participating in my IEPs in 7th grade.
>
> Anee
>
> In a message dated 9/18/1999 10:16:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << I'm on this list because I'm still trying to figure out if my nine year
old
>  does have mild CP and because you all are so much fun. This is a great
place.
>
>  Anyway, my daughter has developmental delays that manifest as fine and
gross
>  motor delays including delayed speech. The three year old IQ test came
out at
>  borderline MR and the six year old IQ test came out normal. Largely
because
>  she was able to talk at six and just wasn't able to respond verbally at
>  three. IQ tests to preschoolers should be banned and the psych examiners
>  should go find a real job (in my opinion.) All children develop so much
>  during those preschool years and the medical and educational community
have
>  only in the last two decades shown any interest in this age group and the
>  development.
>
>  Loree in MO >>
>

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