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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:23:22 -0700
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not to forget all the history you left out abe lincoln
suspending it for the whole time of the southern war
for independance. 

now, can you name an instance in which bush has
suspended it for an american citizen? i dare say your
ansering email on this question will be rather short.
you may decorate it with many other things but the
answer to this question will be short.  

and since we are having history lessons, heres some
more, at no time in our history has POW'S (and i do
not even know if these qualify as POW'S) had
constitutional rights. not a one of the 400,000 german
prisoners in the u.s. had hebius corpus, hell, no
tiime in history have they had the rights that this
group have been afforded.

america valuing all people or not has not a thing to
do with the war on terror, but, i'll dare say this,
all of us with disabilities are better off in america
that we would be in any middle eastern country except
Isreal, and better off than we'd be in most of the
world. maybe a few places in europe could be better,
maybe not.  
how'd you like to be a PWD in Iran? Hey Rayna, tell
mike how good you got it in PERTH. I'LL TAKE IT HERE
IN AMERICA. Thank you. 


--- [log in to unmask] wrote:

> Tell that to the German American of WW I, or the
> Japanese American of WW II.  I'm not talking about
> foreign terrorists, I'm talking about American
> Citizens whose only fault is they were descended
> from arabian people.  Don't say it can't happen. 
> Just like don't say Amerrica values all people.  If
> it did, I would have a job now. instead of
> subsisting on SS.  I'm pretty well fed up with the
> conservative mantra, and liberal malarky both...  I
> say if you are ooncerned for me before I am born, be
> as concerned for me after.  Thanks to conservatives,
> Medicare is making it impossible for people like me
> to get meaningful mobility products which enhances
> life.   I know the constitution preamble, and I know
> what the founding fathers meant when they wrote it.
> That's why they needed the amendment to give blacks
> and womem the right to vote. Both were highly
> progressive causes in their day.  Tell me one thing,
> Ken.  Can you tell me any really good and lasting
> thing Conservatives have done in!
>  this country?  I don't mean along party lines...
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:40:55 -0700
> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>  
> >Subject: Re: what happens if we leave iraq too
> quickly  
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > And oh, btw,
> >> Habeus Corpus is now a thing of the past.  We'll
> all
> >> need to mind our P's and Q's now!
> >
> >
> >do you support giving constitutional rights to
> >non-citizen terrorist mike? did you ever even learn
> >the preamble. it starts out "We the people of the
> >UNITED STATES..." Do you think the mastermind of
> the
> >9-11 attack deserves to have constitutional rights
> >confered on him? 
> >
> >
> >
> >habeou corpus is a constitutional right to U.S.
> >Citizens. 
> >
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