Hi Kat,
Okay - wasn't sure what she meant.
My point is that it hurts the disabled community in there efforts for betterment, etc. A united large community has more clout than many small fragmented units. I believe if you looked the numbers for each individual disability then added them all up - you would have a impressive number - and number speak.
Frankly - since I consider nature's imperfections as normal - I am against all the labeling but it seems to be needed in order to get things done - or something. To me a "normal" person is an anomaly. I am not sure there actually is such a beast. There does however seem to be a universal cookie cutter that people are suppose to come out of. I am not a cookie person, and neither is anyone else. But people have high needs to group themselves into units like themsleves and then build fences around themselves, and shut others out. Ah well...........
Trisha
> I think she meant she uses ASL because she has to, not because it's fun.
>
> I kind of understand your point regarding the deaf being disabled, but they
> don't see themselves as disabled at all, and frankly, I applaud them, and
> think it's presumptuous of a non-deaf or non-hard-of-hearing person to tell
> them they are disabled.
>
> Kat
>
>
> On Thursday 04 December 2003 11:37 am, you wrote:
> > Hi Asdis,
> >
> > I am sorry I don't understand your reply. How is hearing going?
> >
> > Trisha
> >
> > > soorry i must reply im deaf because i sign asdis At 11:58 2.12.2003
> > >
> > > -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tamara,
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry. Amber is loving signing. It is challenges her - using
> > > > her = right hand as a assistant, and it makes her slower. But she loves
> > > > it. I = wish we would find more ways to get to common ground rather
> > > > than the one = uncommon thing we might have. Alex and I are learning
> > > > ASL right along = with Amber. We talk during conversations that we
> > > > aren't involved in and = it works great over distances... like across
> > > > the room - when you don't = want to shout.=20
> > > >
> > > > Trisha
> > > >
> > > > > Trish,
> > > > >=20
> > > > > What Bobby is saying is true. I have a daughter that is deaf in 1 ear
> > > > > =
> > > >
> > > >and I
> > > >
> > > > > have tried to have her learn different things about the deaf culture
> > > > > =
> > > >
> > > >but yet
> > > >
> > > > > she is stuck between the two cultures. I have been around alot of =
> > > >
> > > >deaf
> > > >
> > > > > people and unless you are one of them they don't accept you. I was
> > > > > basically told that if and when Rebekah becomes totally deaf then
> > > > > they =
> > > >
> > > >will
> > > >
> > > > > take her under their wing and teach her everything she needs to know.
> > > > > This is also a girl that loves sign lnguage and is becaoming very
> > > > > good =
> > > >
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > > > at using it.
> > > > > Tamara
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Trisha Cummings" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:21 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Amber's trip to Galludet
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Bobby,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's just plain silly! I don't mind being visually impaired - =
> > > >
> > > >you =3D
> > > >
> > > > > > take my glasses away and I can't see well enough to find my
> > > > > > glasses. =
> > > >
> > > >I =3D
> > > >
> > > > > > can't drive without them- heck I can't walk without them!!! And it
> > > > > > =
> > > >
> > > >=3D
> > > >
> > > > > > impairs my ability to hear - when I don't have them on. What's
> > > > > > wrong =
> > > >
> > > >=3D
> > > >
> > > > > > with admitting I ain't perfect? Cute as button tho!!! GRIN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trisha>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Trish,
> > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > Persons who use ASL consider Deafness as a culture. Many
> > > > > > > do =
> > > >
> > > > =3D
> > > >
> > > > > > not like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hearing persons. They do not consider deafness a disability just
> > > > > > > =
> > > >
> > > >as =3D
> > > >
> > > > > > persons do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > consider being an American as a disability.
> > > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > Bobby
> > >
> > > Asdis night owl mom of the purring cats, Agatha Mist queen of our
> > > apartment and Odinn Thistill my little baby!!!
> > > implanted with CI NC24 18 Juni 2003.
> > > Hookup-date 15 august 2003
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > [log in to unmask] msn messenger
> > > asdisj_astradsdottir yahoo id.
> > > Iceland.
> > >
> > > Faith, Hope and Love.
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