linda linda linda,
making the same point and confirming the story is
one thing is one thing, using exactly the same words
is a script and pretty much did not happen pre-2000.
as you all have found out i do have a very long
memory. also it is lazy reporting.
5 or 6 desenters out of 9000 is not really news. the
real news would be if there were not at least 5 or six
desenters. 6 hundredth of a per cent is nothing.
the only one of the 6 that is even remotely a story is
batist (hopfully spelled correctly) who has did a 180
in the last year. the others are statisticaly non
existant and have some sour grapes in their cup.
if the 15 boys reported anything it would be in the
words of the individual boys, not the exact same words
for all 15 boys. if the same lawyer rehersed them...
but then we get back to what i said about it be
co-ordinated. thanks for a good example i can throw
back to make my point.
this is more of the same and nothing new. it does work
in reverse. if bush was even thinking about asking
rumsfeld to resign or rumsfeld himself were thinking
about it, it sure will not happen now.
now,however for the sake of discussion, it would be
interesting. rumsfeld resigns, who would be the sec of
defense? lets see... cheney resigns as vp. is
nominated for sec of defense. rice is moved out of the
state dept to be nominated for vp. in 2008..... hmmmm
you all probably can come up with other possibilities,
but as usual you are probably not going to like the
results of getting what you think you want.
--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> ken ken ken
> oh mama mia! I deal with the news media regularly
> and we put out news
> releases. When people want to get their point across
> they use talking
> points. The news releases make these points. Of
> course it's real
> news. They all say the same thing because you hold a
> press conference
> and the media show up with their cameras and film
> and print shows up
> and listens and radio records and then they put out
> the story. They
> confirm the facts that we've given them but It's our
> story.
> It sounds like you are saying if every station
> reports 15 boys report
> sexual abuse at the hands of a church leader that
> it's not real news
> because they all reported it the same way. Oh and
> they didn't report
> on the 9,000 boys not abused by a church leader.
> Because that is a non story.
> Generals are supposed to be in favor of a war,
> that's their job. When
> they start publicly defecting from the war line,
> that is news, no
> matter how you wish to denigrate them. They are/were
> generals and are
> entitled to a voice, even a dissenting one. Do you
> only watch Fox.
> Now that is not news. Try democracy now or npr for a
> mind opening
> experience.
>
> At 07:25 AM 4/15/2006, you wrote:
> > some had, some retired when clinton was pres.
> one
> >who was a bush general had been demoted and forced
> out
> >for some violation. there are 9000 retired generals
> in
> >this country. 6 out of 9000 is harly a great
> sample.
> > another thing about this there were no navy
> >admirals and no airforce generals. there has been
> an
> >ongoing argument about the size of ground forces
> >needed. bush and dod brass wants about 1/2 mil fast
> >deploy type and some of these generals wanted 1
> mil.
> >this was more about being overode than it was about
> >iraq and rumsfeld's style. not how they were
> treated,
> >but, that their opinion did not prevail.
> > this was not 6 generals coincidentally critising
> as
> >gen. kinni (hope i spelled that right) was known to
> >have been on the phone co-ordinating this. also i
> >heard the same words on every news outlet except
> fox.
> >"revolt of the generals" was used on radio, tv and
> in
> >print. when you hear the same phrase 15-20 times
> out
> >of different media, it is a script. we call it
> >"talking points." they do not even try to disguise
> it.
> >just more of the same from the media. and it is not
> >real news.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Take care of yourself, and chime back in when
> you
> > > can. I respect your opinions and apparently
> misread
> > > part of the MSNBC article. I thought the
> generals
> > > quoted in it had served in the present Iraqi
> > > conflict.
> > >
> > > Kendall
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thu 4/13/2006 7:39 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [C-PALSY] i really am sorry guys
> > > (unfortunatly long)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > you know, i love all you guys on this list.
> > > sometimes
> > > you snap at the people you care about because
> you
> > > can't bite the people you'd like to just punch
> out.
> > > i
> > > let my frustration spill over into our
> discussions
> > > and
> > > our relationship. i am not really frustrated and
> > > angry
> > > with you guys, i am frustrated and angry with
> the
> > > bureaucrates at the dept of labor. just like
> most of
> > > you i was born a person with a disability. we
> all
> > > know
> > > that. but the cp was not a total disability with
> me,
> > > i
> > > still had enough of ability to go to work. in
> 1973
> > > cp
> > > was not total disability, in 1983 it was not
> total
> > > disability, in 1993 it was not. in 2003 my
> doctor
> > > told
> > > me i had repetitive stress injuries and had
> > > permanantly injured my tendons and ligaments in
> both
> > > arms and hands and had pulled a disk out in my
> neck.
> > > it is herniated. he took me off the job. i have
> seen
> > > 7
> > > doctors 5 of which daid i had work injuries that
> had
> > > taken what the cp had left. 1 doctors opinion
> was so
> > > far out that even dol had to drop his out of the
> > > picture. they had 1 doctor that runs a headache
> > > clinic
> > > that saids i just had cp. 2 physical medicine
> > > specialist 2 normal practice neuros and one
> neuro
> > > that
> > > is part of a motion disorder clinic at emory
> > > university hospital all said i was injured on
> the
> > > job.
> > > one said i was not. all six said i am now
> totally
> > > disabled and even the quack said i was totally
> > > disabled. the dol hacks goes with the one. 15
> months
> > > ago they put me on minimun benifits which is
> about
> > > 1200 less than i should be getting. what i get
> is
> > > fully taxable so it amounts to about 1500 in
> > > spendable
> > > money. when i finally got a hearing the woman
> that
> > > came was more interested in getting finished
> than in
> > > getting the facts and my lawyer,judy and me all
> are
> > > pessimistic that she is going to really give us
> a
> > > fair
> > > look at my case. we think that only if G-D in
> heaven
> > > acts will we win this round. my lawyer says that
> if
> > > i
> > > have to appeal to the next 2 levels, it may be 3
> > > more
> > > years before i can get a final board hearing. i
> > > can't
> > > afford to live here and can't afford to leave.
> ben
> > > is
> > > in community collage and becouse of the hope
> > > scholarship here in georgia has no real cost.
> judy
> > > needs to stay here one more year to have a small
> > > pension built up with the georgia teachers
> > > retirement
> > > system even though she will not draw it until
> she is
> > > 62. we are slowly eating away at our savings
> just
> > > trying to last it out here. there is not enough
> to
> > > last 3 more years. this week i spent over a 1000
> > > dollars on ben and judys cars.
> > > then today i packed up some of the best coins
> in
> > > my
>
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