Anthony, You crack me up!  I agree with you.





--- Anthony Arnold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have been listening or actually reading this
> discussion.  I want to add
> something that my parents and I feel strongly about
> when it comes to pottie
> training a child either with or without a
> disability.  We feel that you must
> push using the toilet everywhere a child goes, you
> can't only train just in
> a school or rehab setting or take breaks from trying
> to train them because
> it wouldn't be very effective.  If you're a
> therapist or a teacher, if I
> were you, I would definitely sit down with the
> parents to tell them that
> they must be part of the process totally because it
> can't be just a school
> thing and/or a rehab thing, you must all work
> together to be successful.
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth H. Thiers
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:36 PM
>   Subject: Re: Pottie question
>
>
>   Hi Kristina,
>   There can be a lot of reasons children don't potty
> train so, excuse the
> long
>   email.  Usually this comes up a lot for us OT's
> and now and days the joke
> is
>   the kids save it all for when Ms. Beth comes to
> visit.  Something about
> all
>   that jumping up and down on balls and stuff.
>   As always, we start with medical reasons,
> constipation, diarrhea, urinary
>   tract infections, yeast infections and the like.
> These are sometimes
>   painful and make going potty not so fun.  If she
> was a premie she may
> still
>   be getting over being born with an immature
> gastrointestinal tract and
>   nervous system.  Talk with your doc about these
> concerns
>   Next, how does she sit on the toilet.  Is she
> secure, legs on the ground,
>   able to hold on etc.  It's not fun to go when your
> trying not to fall in.
>   Does she have any sensory problems?  Hyper- or
> hyposensitivity? She may be
>   scared of the noises elimination makes in the
> toilet.  Is the seat too
> cold?
>   Discuss this with your local OT.  I hope she is
> still seeing an OT?  This
>   would be a great school goal.  Will potty
> independently!  Is she low tone
> in
>   the trunk?  Poor abdomenal strength and posture
> make it hard to know when
> to
>   go.
>   Note when she is most apt to go.  And take her
> before she goes.  Get into
> a
>   habit of sitting her on the potty every couple of
> hours.  Play around,
> read
>   the book "Everybody Poops", etc.
>   Sorry if I've repeated anything you may have tried
> but, I just wanted to
> get
>   out some general ideas.  Hope they help.
>
>   Beth the OT
>   email address: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
>   [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Kristina Fallon
>   Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:06 AM
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Subject: Pottie question
>
>
>   How old were your kids when the got pottie
> trained?  My girl will be 6
> next
>   week and still won't tell us.  We have worked on
> it for a year.  We try
> for
>   a
>   few months and give it a break then try again.
> She is  smart but I don't
>   know if she can tell she has to go or not.  She
> was a preemie and is only
> at
>   a mental age of aobut 4 but....
>   I also know between 4 and 10 is the range with CP
> for pottie training but
> I
>   was jjust wondering.
>   Thanks- Kristina


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