i'll be happy to read it.
--- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Interesting paper profiling the Guantanamo
> detainees. I'll include the executive summary and
> the link.
>
> THE GUANTANAMO DETAINEES: THE GOVERNMENT'S STORY
> Professor Mark Denbeaux* and Joshua Denbeaux*
> An interim report
> EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
> The media and public fascination with who is
> detained at Guantanamo and why has been
> fueled in large measure by the refusal of the
> Government, on the grounds of national security, to
> provide much information about the individuals and
> the charges against them. The information
> available to date has been anecdotal and erratic,
> drawn largely from interviews with the few
> detainees who have been released or from statements
> or court filings by their attorneys in the
> pending habeas corpus proceedings that the
> Government has not declared "classified."
> This Report is the first effort to provide a more
> detailed picture of who the Guantanamo
> detainees are, how they ended up there, and the
> purported bases for their enemy combatant
> designation. The data in this Report is based
> entirely upon the United States Government's own
> documents.1 This Report provides a window into the
> Government's success detaining only those
> that the President has called "the worst of the
> worst."
> Among the data revealed by this Report:
> 1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not
> determined to have committed any
> hostile acts against the United States or its
> coalition allies.
> 2. Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al
> Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining
> detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al
> Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive
> affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.
> 3. The Government has detained numerous persons
> based on mere affiliations with a
> large number of groups that in fact, are not on the
> Department of Homeland Security terrorist
> watchlist. Moreover, the nexus between such a
> detainee and such organizations varies considerably.
> Eight percent are detained because they are deemed
> "fighters for;" 30% considered "members of;" a
> large majority - 60% -- are detained merely because
> they are "associated with" a group or groups the
> Government asserts are terrorist organizations. For
> 2% of the prisoners their nexus to any terrorist
> group is unidentified.
> 4. Only 5% of the detainees were captured by United
> States forces. 86% of the
> detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the
> Northern Alliance and turned over to United States
> custody.
> * The authors are counsel for two detainees in
> Guantanamo.
> 1 See, Combatant Status Review Board Letters,
> Release date January 2005, February 2005, March
> 2005, April 2005 and the Final Release available at
> the Seton Hall Law School library, Newark, NJ.
> 3 This 86% of the detainees captured by Pakistan or
> the Northern Alliance were handed over to the United
> States at a time in which the United States offered
> large bounties for capture of suspected enemies.
> 5. Finally, the population of persons deemed not to
> be enemy combatants - mostly Uighers - are in fact
> accused of more serious allegations than a great
> many persons still deemed to
> be enemy combatants.
>
>
http://law.shu.edu/news/guantanamo_report_final_2_08_06.pdf
>
>
>
>
> Kendall Corbett
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>
>
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the
> world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on
> the unreasonable man.
>
> -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:31 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] what happens if we leave iraq
> too quickly
>
> beg to disagree, the great majority of those at
> gitmo
> were captured on the battle field in afghanastan.
>
> --- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Linda and Ken,
> >
> > German POW's in Iowa did the same thing. I don't
> > know how many, if any,
> > were SS, but one of my mom's cousins ended up
> dating
> > and marrying one of
> > these POW's who worked on the family farm.
> >
> > The difference between the POW's at Guantanamo is
> > that they were mostly
> > people who had entered the US legally at some
> point,
> > and if war had not
> > been declared, would be subject to civil law for
> any
> > crimes they might
> > have committed. If we say that US law doesn't
> apply
> > to _suspected_
> > criminals (of whatever type) who are not US
> citizens
> > if their crimes
> > occur on US soil, what's to prevent a foreign
> > country (Iraq, etc.) from
> > rounding up our citizens and preventing them from
> > receiving due process?
> >
> >
> > >and since we are having history lessons, heres
> some
> > >more, at no time in our history has POW'S (and i
> do
> > >not even know if these qualify as POW'S) had
> > >constitutional rights. not a one of the 400,000
> > german prisoners in the
> >
> > >u.s. had hebius corpus, hell, no tiime in history
> > have they had the
> > >rights that this group have been afforded.
> >
> >
> > Kendall
> >
> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> >
> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> the
> > unreasonable one
> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all
> > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> >
> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:16 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] what happens if we leave
> iraq
> > too quickly
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > I've read a few books on German POW's in America
> and
> > in Utah they let
> > them out of camp to work in hospitals or on farms
> > and these were SS.
> > They made many friends in Utah who later helped
> them
> > come to the US.
> > During this time our government gave history
> lessons
> > to these POW's
> > to help them learn about democracy. In Utah the
> > citizens welcomed
> > them and no wonder it's the reddest state of all.
> > The German SS
> > influenced public policy in Utah as many citizens
> > got their blood
> > type tattooed under their left arm the same as the
> > SS had done. Lots
> > of all together strange things happened.
>
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