hillary is passionate about power. she cares about
power. she'll say anything, act anyway, do anything to
get it.
--- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> i'm sure she intended it, that's why i carefully
> said. She was passionate about the things she SAYS
> she cares about. Margaret Thatcher, and Golda Meir,
> and Indira Ghandi were from a different generation,
> in a sense they had to ddeny their femaleness in a
> male-dominated profession. The new generation of
> women embrace their femaleness and believe that they
> don't have to become men-like.
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> Tamar Mag Raine
> [log in to unmask]
> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 12:53:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Obama experience
>
> however i guess more people bought it than did not.
> it
> did work.
> I can't imagine Prime minister Thatcher giving that
> kind of talk. "i had so many oportunities in mind
> for
> the faulkland islands." eyes glisening.
>
> --- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > i guess we have a different view.
> >
> > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ken, I saw the 1 minute 45 second. That was not
> > > whining.
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > > Tamar Mag Raine
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:44:48 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > >
> > > i know there was a 15 second clip shown by most
> of
> > > the
> > > networks, and there was a clip closer to a
> minute.
> > i
> > > saw the long one with the glisening eyes and the
> > > whining. i recognize a pity party and that is
> > > exactly
> > > what i saw.
> > >
> > > also you are right that for a woman to cry under
> > > adverse circumstances is not negative, but for
> the
> > > president to cry under adverse circumstances may
> > > very
> > > well be a whole different subject. i am sorry,
> but
> >
> > > she is not running for wife in chief or girl
> > friend
> > > in
> > > chief, she is running for president, commander
> in
> > > chief. for the commander in chief to be crying
> and
> > > whining is negative.
> > >
> > > --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Humph, just because a woman cries, it's a
> > negative
> > > > thing -- it wasn't a pity
> > > > party!
> > > >
> > > > (and besides, she won, so it doesn't seem to
> > have
> > > > hurt her chances in the
> > > > caucus.)
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:19 AM
> > > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > >
> > > > > looked like a pity party to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I didn't see the entire hilary thing, but
> > what
> > > I
> > > > did
> > > > >> see was not crying! I saw hilary being
> > > passionate
> > > > >> about the issues she says she cares about.
> > > There
> > > > is
> > > > >> a difference guys!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > > > >> Tamar Mag Raine
> > > > >> [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > > >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:55:29 PM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > > >>
> > > > >> well Virginia, you told me something I did
> > not
> > > > know
> > > > >> about LBJ.
> > > > >> WAR ON POVERTY..LOOKS LIKE POVETY WON!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> WATCHING THE RETURNS, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS
> LIKE
> > > > >> hILLARY'S DEMISE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
> EXAGERATED.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> sorry i can't seem to keep my fingers off
> the
> > > > caps
> > > > >> lock for some reason.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- Virginia Perry <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Ken,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > As I understand it, LBJ's health was a
> > > factor.
> > > > He
> > > > >> > didn't want the American public to lose
> > > another
> > > > >> > sitting president so soon after Kennedy.
> > One
> > > of
> > > > my
> > > > >> > sources says LBJ had an actuarial study
> > done
> > > in
> > > > >> 1967
> > > > >> > to see how long he had to live. In fact,
> he
> > > > died
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > January 1973, so his instinct in that was
> > > > pretty
> > > > >> > accurate. Of course, his party wasn't
> very
> > > > >> > supportive, either, due to all the flak
> LBJ
> > > was
> > > > >> > taking on Vietnam. I sometimes wonder
> what
> > he
> > > > >> could
> > > > >> > have accomplished if he hadn't been
> saddled
> > > > with
> > > > >> > Vietnam -- if he'd been able to really
> > focus
> > > on
> > > > >> his
> > > > >> > War on Poverty.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > But I guess my overall point was that
> > > > experience
>
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