i guess we have a different view.
--- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ken, I saw the 1 minute 45 second. That was not
> whining.
>
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>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:44:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Obama experience
>
> i know there was a 15 second clip shown by most of
> the
> networks, and there was a clip closer to a minute. i
> saw the long one with the glisening eyes and the
> whining. i recognize a pity party and that is
> exactly
> what i saw.
>
> also you are right that for a woman to cry under
> adverse circumstances is not negative, but for the
> president to cry under adverse circumstances may
> very
> well be a whole different subject. i am sorry, but
> she is not running for wife in chief or girl friend
> in
> chief, she is running for president, commander in
> chief. for the commander in chief to be crying and
> whining is negative.
>
> --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Humph, just because a woman cries, it's a negative
> > thing -- it wasn't a pity
> > party!
> >
> > (and besides, she won, so it doesn't seem to have
> > hurt her chances in the
> > caucus.)
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:19 AM
> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> >
> > > looked like a pity party to me.
> > >
> > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I didn't see the entire hilary thing, but what
> I
> > did
> > >> see was not crying! I saw hilary being
> passionate
> > >> about the issues she says she cares about.
> There
> > is
> > >> a difference guys!
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:55:29 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > >>
> > >> well Virginia, you told me something I did not
> > know
> > >> about LBJ.
> > >> WAR ON POVERTY..LOOKS LIKE POVETY WON!
> > >>
> > >> WATCHING THE RETURNS, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE
> > >> hILLARY'S DEMISE MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXAGERATED.
> > >>
> > >> sorry i can't seem to keep my fingers off the
> > caps
> > >> lock for some reason.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Virginia Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Ken,
> > >> >
> > >> > As I understand it, LBJ's health was a
> factor.
> > He
> > >> > didn't want the American public to lose
> another
> > >> > sitting president so soon after Kennedy. One
> of
> > my
> > >> > sources says LBJ had an actuarial study done
> in
> > >> 1967
> > >> > to see how long he had to live. In fact, he
> > died
> > >> in
> > >> > January 1973, so his instinct in that was
> > pretty
> > >> > accurate. Of course, his party wasn't very
> > >> > supportive, either, due to all the flak LBJ
> was
> > >> > taking on Vietnam. I sometimes wonder what he
> > >> could
> > >> > have accomplished if he hadn't been saddled
> > with
> > >> > Vietnam -- if he'd been able to really focus
> on
> > >> his
> > >> > War on Poverty.
> > >> >
> > >> > But I guess my overall point was that
> > experience
> > >> > shouldn't always be THE deciding factor in an
> > >> > election.> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:03:18
> > -0700>
> > >> > From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re:
> > >> Obama
> > >> > experience> To: [log in to unmask]> >
> > >> > Virginia, et al,> > Carter ran in '76 as an
> > >> "outside
> > >> > the Beltway" candidate, and relied on his>
> > >> executive
> > >> > experience in Georgia. Reagan ran as an
> > "outside
> > >> the
> > >> > Beltway"> candidate in 1980, and relied on
> his
> > >> > executive experience as Governor of>
> > California.
> > >> > Clinton ran as an "outside the Beltway"
> > candidate
> > >> in
> > >> > '92, and> relied on his executive experience
> as
> > >> > governor of Arkansas. Johnson had a> lot of
> > >> > Washington experience, and was vice president
> > >> under
> > >> > Kennedy, which> helped him a lot in his
> > election
> > >> in
> > >> > 1964. It would have been interesting to> see
> > what
> > >> > would have happened if LBJ had run in '68.>
> On
> > Jan
> > >> > 4, 2008 5:40 PM, Virginia Perry
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> > wrote:> > > Historical note: Nixon won his
> > first
> > >> > term as president at least partly> > because
> he
> > >> ran
> > >> > as the more experienced candidate (he'd been
> > >> > vice-president> > before). More experience
> can
> > be
> > >> > better, but it isn't always a guarantee of> >
> > >> > quality
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
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