Ken,
I am sorry the politics on the list are so difficult for you. I on
the other hand find a huge group of like minded souls. Hope all is
well for you and yes it's not worth getting aggravated over cause you
are not going to change minds here just as you're not changing your views.
I'd be interested to know sometime if you supported Vietnam, and if
you did, what you think in retrospect. My father was an Ace fighter
pilot in Korea and a real great guy, never raised his voice, soft
spoken. I know the war bothered him more as he got older. He was for
Vietnam but eventually realized us kids were right in our aim to STOP
WAR NOW.
At 01:11 PM 4/13/2006, you wrote:
>kendall, i'd be interested in knowing what these
>people who retired before rumfeld became sec of
>defense actually could know about how he is running
>the department too. the management style is autocradic
>but gets it done. these used to be in ranks types do
>not like that, but, the fact is that they have been
>out of the loop for years now.
> hell i could sit here and say "i don't like the way
>the cdc is being ran by gerberdine." but the truth of
>the matter is i have been gone 3 years and really
>would not have a clue except what my buddies tell me.
>the difference is that i don't have a lazy reporter
>that can't dig up something real publishing my
>remarks. for every general that they dig up to
>critisise, there is more that they do not interview
>becouse they are not going to critisize.
>
>there is no real news here. same old "get rid of
>rumsfeld" that has been going on now for quite a
>while.
>
>while i am at it i'll go ahead and address the
>ludicrus idea that there is more violence in iraq than
>there was under saddam. there are no towns having the
>entire populations wiped out by poison gas, there are
>not mas graves with hundreds and even thousands put
>int them. there is not women being taken to a room
>where a goverment employee hired for the purpose rapes
>and tortures them. i find the whole discussion to be
>totally senseless. i am sorry if you find that
>statement offencive, but the whole idea defiles any
>real logic.
>
> i am turning off the list for a while. i am not
>going to have my hands swelling from debating the
>senseless. enjoy the party.
>
>--- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> >
> > I'd be interested in hearing how the 21st century
> > realities are (or
> > possibly need to be) reflected in Rumsfeld's
> > management style; The MSNBC
> > article Kat sent seemed more about that than a
> > different type of
> > warfare, as it's been waged in Afghanistan and Iraq,
> > and going back to
> > the 90's, Bosnia, Croatia, etc.
> >
> > Kendall
> >
> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> >
> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> > unreasonable one
> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all
> > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> >
> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:14 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Retired Military Officers and Rumfeld
> >
> > the military is going through changes from a
> > military based on 20th century realities to a
> > military
> > based on 21st century realities.
> > any time there is changes, there are those who do
> > not like the changes.
> > in the military, those who can cope with the
> > change
> > do just that. those who can't or don't want to cope,
> > retire and are then free to complain and often do.
> > there is no real news here.
> >
> > --- Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Even retired military officers don't like the way
> > > Rumsfeld is
> > > handling things:
> > >
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12280913/
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
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