Ken,
I wonder if Bush (Rove and Cheney, et al) realize how much their
unwillingness (inability?) to listen to other viewpoints has damaged the
political process and the Republican Party. What I hear you saying (and my
Dad saying - both fairly conservative Republicans), is that present policies
are wrong, and that there needs to be a change if the Party is to retain
credibility.
Or am I too quick to say that? As my Dad might say, from your viewpoint, am
I "throwing the baby out with the bath water?"
On 3/28/07, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> i see absolutly nothing in your email that i am not in
> agreement with. a war tax is a definate thing to look
> into.
> here is a definate problem with bush. he never would
> veto a spending bill no matter how much lard was put
> in by the then repubican congress. i think that hurt
> them as much as the war. but who knows for sure. my
> guess is as good as anyones or as bad as anyones.
>
> --- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I hit the send button, and realized I'd left
> > the post unfinished.
> >
> > Ken and Mike,
> > >
> > > I've also thought that some form of national
> > service would be a good
> > > thing. I'd think that something like VISTA or the
> > Peace Corps could be a
> > > viable option for those who are philosophically
> > opposed to, or otherwise
> > > unsuited for military service. Soon after I
> > graduated from college, and
> > > was looking for a job with a degree in political
> > science, I got the card
> > > from the Army that said "We Want You!" and the
> > followup phone call from the
> > > local recruiter. I talked to him on the phone and
> > didn't tell him about my
> > > disabilities (they aren't apparent in my speech).
> > We set up an appointment
> > > to talk more, and he was shocked when I came into
> > his office in my chair.
> > > We talked for a while, and he told me how to
> > investigate civilian
> > > opportunities with the Army. I thanked him, and
> > asked him if I still got
> > > the free T-Shirt. He said that I'd get it in the
> > mail in a couple of
> > > weeks. I did, and still use a part of it as a
> > cleaning rag, after I
> > > couldn't wear it anymore. Either it shrunk, I
> > grew, or a combination of the
> > > two things happened. I think it's more likely the
> > last two things.
> > >
> > > I also think that there needs to be some mechanism
> > to pay for the war
> > > other than continuing to cut into social and
> > educational programs. I serve
> > > on the advisory council for our state Tech Act
> > project, and funding for that
> > > has gotten rolled into the war funding bill that
> > recently passed both Houses
> > > of Congress with the provision for the US to be
> > out of Iraq by the end of
> > > 2008. President Bush has promised to veto this,
> > if it comes to his desk
> > > with the provision that we ar out of Iraq by the
> > end of next year. I
> > > actually agree with that, because I don't see Iraq
> > being stable by that time
> > > on it's own. I wish that weren't the case, but
> > all my wishes, and Nancy
> > > Pelosi's, and Dick Cheney's and George Bush's
> > won't make it so. That being
> > > said, I think continuing the present tax cuts is a
> > bad idea. the
> > > Pay-as-you-go (paygo) policy that was instituted
> > under George HW Bush, and
> > > continued under Clinton was a good philosophy, and
> > is one that should have
> > > been continued by the present administration.
> > >
> > > With the number of service people who are
> > returning with disabilities,
> > > funding for Tech Act projects and other disability
> > related services is going
> > > to be very necessary. From what we've seen at
> > Walter Reed, I don't think we
> > > can count on the Department of Veteran's Affairs
> > to handle these needs
> > > well.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/27/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree that some form of civil service should
> > be mandatory for all
> > > > citizens.
> > > >
> > > > ---- OrI agree iginal message ----
> > > > >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:32:17 -0700
> > > > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Some say US citizens need a war
> > tax or a call to national
> > > > service.
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >
> > > > >this is interesting. do you agree or disagree?
> > > > >
> > > > >--- "Kendall D. Corbett" <
> > [log in to unmask]>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Interesting piece from the Christian Science
> > Monitor
> > > > >> on the war.....
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *Few Americans share Iraq war's sacrifices*
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *By Gordon Lubold* | Staff writer of The
> > Christian
> > > > >> Science Monitor
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *WASHINGTON***
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ask Navy corpsman Adam Shepherd what he wants
> > > > >> Americans to know about his
> > > > >> service in Iraq and he says it boils down to
> > one
> > > > >> thing. "Just don't forget
> > > > >> that we sacrificed a lot to be out here,"
> > says the
> > > > >> medic, stationed at Camp
> > > > >> Taqaddum, Iraq.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's a sentiment that many servicemen and
> > women
> > > > >> express. Five years after
> > > > >> President Bush declared war on Islamic
> > extremism,
> > > > >> the military has lost
> > > > >> 3,599 troops and spent $503 billion in Iraq
> > and
> > > > >> Afghanistan. Yet unlike past
> > > > >> wars, even unpopular ones, most Americans
> > have
> > > > >> contributed little directly.
> > > > >> Tire and paper drives of World War II are a
> > dim
> > > > >> memory. An increasingly
> > > > >> narrow slice of the population serves in the
> > > > >> military.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Now, a growing number of observers question
> > whether
> > > > >> Americans should make
> > > > >> some kind of sacrifice for what Bush himself
> > calls
> > > > >> the "decisive ideological
> > > > >> struggle of our time." Despite the billions
> > spent on
> > > > >> defense, which
> > > > >> represents 4 percent of the gross domestic
> > product,
> > > > >> many inside the
> > > > >> administration and conservatives outside it
> > believe
> > > > >> it's time to spend more.
> > > > >> But raising defense spending at a time when
> > > > >> Americans are frustrated with
> > > > >> the Iraq war is problematic. It also raises
> > > > >> questions for the growing number
> > > > >> of Americans who don't support the
> > president's war
> > > > >> strategy. So what should
> > > > >> citizens do – if anything – to support US
> > troops?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Aside from sending care packages or
> > volunteering to
> > > > >> help those in uniform,
> > > > >> Americans seem to have no ready answers.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> All this comes at a time when lawmakers,
> > analysts,
> > > > >> and many current and
> > > > >> former military officials blame Bush for
> > failing to
> > > > >> mobilize the nation by
> > > > >> calling on Americans to join the military or
> > > > >> creating national service
> > > > >> programs or even raising additional resources
> > to
> > > > >> help pay for the war
> > > > >> effort. Instead, he has doled out tax cuts
> > and
> > > > >> suggested Americans can be
> > > > >> true patriots by keeping the economy going
> > strong.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Says one retired general: "Marines are at
> > war,
> > > > >> America is at the mall."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The president has also asked for patience as
> > > > >> challenges to the war effort
> > > > >> have mounted – a different kind of sacrifice
> > that
> > > > >> the public and Congress
> > > > >> seems increasingly unwilling to make.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Americans would be willing to sacrifice in
> > real ways
> > > > >> if they were asked,
> > > > >> says Fred Kagan, a senior analyst at American
> > > > >> Enterprise Institute, a
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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