my views are scewed becouse i worked for the
government and a friend of my summed it up about right
when he said "the government is a legalized mafia."
--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Kendall,
>
> I am sure you are right. It was a scandal in
> California about how
> many hospitals were being privatized a while back.
> Also the bad doc I
> was after was using his own small private hospital
> to practice bad
> medicine. His license is now gone. Sometimes my view
> is skewed by the
> fact that I work on crimes.
>
> All the best,
>
> linda
>
> At 11:53 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote:
> >Linda,=20
> >
> >No, I haven't for two reasons; there's one hospital
> in my town, which is
> >owned by Hospital Corporation of America (HCA). I
> think that my doctor
> >may own shares in HCA, but I don't know that for a
> fact. Even if he
> >does own shares, his interest is comparatively so
> small that keeping a
> >patient in the hospital an extra day (or an extra
> month, if the
> >patient's insurance company will permit it!) is not
> going to increase
> >his dividends. In Hawaii, there may be hospitals
> owned by individual
> >physicians, or groups of physicians, but around
> here, they are either
> >owned by large, publicly traded corporations, or
> they are county owned
> >facilities (which are sometimes leased to publicly
> held corporations).
> >For my wife's surgery, we found the best doctor we
> could, and there is
> >one hospital in the town he practices, which is
> community owned, and
> >leased to a private hospital management
> corporation.
> >
> >As I said in my previous response, individual
> physicians are often at
> >the mercy of insurance companies when it comes to
> the length of time a
> >patient stays in the hospital. This is even more
> true for people who
> >are covered under Medicare or Medicaid, because
> their health coverage is
> >based on "diagnosis related groups" or DRG's, which
> limit what the
> >hospital will be reimbursed for a patient admitted
> for a specific
> >diagnosis. Under Medicare and Medicaid DRG's, the
> standard length of
> >stay for a procedure is calculated, and the
> hospital and doctor is
> >reimbursed based on that standard. =20
> >
> >I don't know how long it's been since you've been
> hospitalized, but I've
> >had three surgeries in the last ten years, an
> appendectomy, gallbladder
> >surgery, and arthroscopic knee surgery. In total
> for all of these
> >surgeries combined, I spent less than 48 hours in
> the hospital (for the
> >appendectomy and gall bladder, I went in at around
> 6 PM, and was
> >discharged by 10 the next morning, and for the
> knee, I went in at 10,
> >and was home by 5:30). My Dad had two heart valves
> replaced three years
> >ago in one surgery, and spent 4 days in the
> hospital. Earlier this
> >year, he had cancer surgery involving removing a
> kidney, and spent three
> >days in the hospital.
> >
> >=20
> >Kendall=20
> >
> >An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> >
> >The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one
> >persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all
> >progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> >
> >-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Linda Walker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
> >Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:32 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Breaking News - Heart attack victim
> wins $4.5 million in
> >case against Vioxx-maker Merck (long reply)
> >
> >David,
> >
> > Working in the travel industry and
> suggesting someone use=20
> >American over United is not the same as being a
> doctor and placing a=20
> >sick person in a hospital you own without
> disclosing that. That's the=20
> >conflict of interest. People know she works for an
> airline and will=20
> >be suggesting they travel on that one and they are
> free to search for=20
> >other fares or whatever. How many times have you
> said to your doctor,=20
> >Can I see a list of hospitals I might be admitted
> to? Do you have a=20
> >financial interest in the one you are sending me
> to? Do you have a=20
> >financial interest in the drug you are prescribing?
> > I work for so called greedy Personal
> Injury attorneys and am=20
> >proud of it because they try and get their clients
> the most money=20
> >they can for their damages.
> > Discharging too early is the same as
> keeping beds full for=20
> >the wrong reasons. Both are problems. After I gave
> birth they wanted=20
> >me up and walking right away. That's the model
> program now and works=20
> >for most. I knew my body and that I would pass out
> if asked to walk.=20
> >They insisted and I stood up and dropped to the
> floor. This was not=20
> >life threatening and no big deal but in other cases
> it could be. I am=20
> >so sorry they did that to your wife. Miserable
> system we are suffering
> >under.
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Linda
> >
> >
> > > If I
> > >remember correctly Linda, you, or your daughter,
> work in the travel
> > >industry. Should you be prohibited from owning
> shares in United
> > >Airlines or Hilton Hotels because of that?=3D20
> > >
> > >Because of the way the US healthcare (read:
> insurance) system is
> > >currently structured, doctors are often placed in
> the position of
> > >discharging patients before they feel they are
> ready. When my wife had
> > >a Baclofen pump placed a month ago, she was still
> vomiting as we got in
> > >the car to go home. Her doctor would have liked
> her to stay another
> > >day, not because it made him or the hospital more
> money, but because he
> > >knew that our trip home (a 3 hour drive) would be
> unpleasant at best.
> > >He'd been able to get our insurance to cover an
> additional 24 hours,
> >but
> > >they weren't willing to do more time without an
> additional diagnosis,
> > >which wasn't warranted. =3D20
> > >
> > >Kendall=3D20
> > >
> > >An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> > >
> > >The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> the unreasonable one
> > >persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all
> > >progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > >
> > >-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: ken barber
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=3D20
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:51 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Breaking News - Heart attack victim
> wins $4.5 million in
> > >case against Vioxx-maker Merck
>
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