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From:
Chester Worwa <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
Date:
Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:16:28 -0800
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But, tie shoes do untie.

--- kat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> They shouldn't be coming apart at all.
>
> Kat
>
> On Monday 08 December 2003 7:38 am, you wrote:
> > But you hear the velcro comming off.  If the shoe
> > laces untie themselves you can't hear that.
> >
> > --- kat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Well actually you trip over untied shoe laces
> > > because you didn't tie them.
> > > That's not a product defect, it's yours, so no
> > > reason to sue.  Velcro does
> > > come loose and that is a product
> limitation/defect
> > > that weakens the brace and
> > > causes the wearer to fall and injure himself.
> That
> > > is ligation-worthy, or
> > > some lawyers might think so.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > > On Monday 08 December 2003 6:31 am, you wrote:
> > > > So, with tie laces who's to say you can't sue
> > >
> > > because
> > >
> > > > you can't tie them and you trip and fall?  At
> > >
> > > least
> > >
> > > > with the velcro you can hear it unduing.
> > > >
> > > > --- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > well suppose you have braces over velcro
> shoes
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > > > vice
> > > > > versa. i do not know how braces fit, but the
> > >
> > > velcro
> > >
> > > > > or
> > > > > other fasseners gets loose or unfastened and
> > >
> > > couses
> > >
> > > > > the brace not to work and you fall. we are
> not
> > >
> > > going
> > >
> > > > > to say that  someone would not sue the brace
> > >
> > > makers.
> > >
> > > > > --- Chester Worwa <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > Sue?  Over what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > probably to cover their a*ses with the
> sue
> > >
> > > happy
> > >
> > > > > > > culture we live in.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Chester Worwa <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > The spring loaded shoe laces are good
> as
> > >
> > > well.
> > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > still wonder why brace places say to
> only
> > >
> > > use
> > >
> > > > > > tie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > laces, when everything else seems to
> be
> > > > >
> > > > > working
> > > > >
> > > > > > > fine
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > for me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Meir Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > A few things
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Velcro can be replaced if you have a
> > > > >
> > > > > cobbler//
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > shoemaker--repair around
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also elastic laces are also good and
> > >
> > > handy
> > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral
> > >
> > > Palsy
> > >
> > > > > > List
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > >
> > > On
> > >
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > kat
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003
> 19:33
> > > > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: One handed shoe lacing
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Only a year?  I'm talking about a
> > >
> > > loonnng
> > >
> > > > > time
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > here,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike. ;) Actually I
> > > > > > > > > don't like Velcro that much as it
> > >
> > > doesn't
> > >
> > > > > hold
> > > > >
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > well as shoelaces.
> > > > > > > > > When I bought some back in the
> 1980s, I
> > >
> > > was
> > >
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > walking, and they
> > > > > > > > > certainly didn't last as long as
> > >
> > > lace-ups.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Kat
> > > > > > > >
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