me too, ken! gee, something else we agree on! I especially want to see my
dog Sugar, and my cat nicky from high school. he was a special cat,
beautiful maltese (gray short hair) even grandma leah loved him. and of
course these two that I have now.

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> [Original Message]
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 3/28/2005 7:58:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
>
> thank you kendall, i'd like to think that people like
> my sister and i too will have our old faithful pets to
> make heaven complete for us. it is hard for me to
> fathom no animals.
>
> --- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Trisha,
> >
> > If that's the Catholic theology, they obviously
> > didn't see my dog when
> > his toe got caught in the ramp on my van.  He looked
> > at me, between
> > whimpers, as if to say, "Please Dad, get it loose.
> > It hurts, and I'm
> > scared."  I've attended several churches that do pet
> > blessings
> > frequently.
> >
> > This Q&A discusses animals souls vs. human souls
> > quite nicely:
> >
> >
> http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=431500&languag
> > e=en
> >
> >
> > Kendall Corbett
> >
> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> >
> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> > unreasonable one
> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all
> > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:36 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> >
> > well, my logic does not agree with theirs.
> >
> > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > >   The catholic logic is only thing with souls go
> > to
> > > heaven, only people have souls - so only people go
> > > to heaven.
> > >
> > >                                Trisha
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > > ken barber
> > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:53 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> > >
> > >
> > > well, trish. i believe heaven and eart were
> > created
> > > perfect. there were animals from the first 6 days,
> > > no
> > > matter how you interpret "days." if animals were
> > > part
> > > of the perfect, why would they not be part of the
> > > other perfect.
> > > and the bible itself talks about horses as part of
> > > the
> > > new creation.
> > >   i do not know either way about if there ever was
> > > unicorns, but, i do know that there are people who
> > > love animals very much and animals are a part of
> > > their
> > > happiness. heaven is supposed to be complete
> > > happiness, so i do not have a problem believing
> > that
> > > BIG GOD, can work it out so we have our animals to
> > > complete the experience.
> > >   seems logical to me.  i do not quite understand
> > > why
> > > this is a big issue with the priest. now, i do not
> > > know or claim to know if my dogs are going to be
> > the
> > > exact same dog, recreated, or a like beast created
> > > so
> > > close that i'll not know the difference. i do not
> > > know, really do not care. i do not put them on =
> > par
> > > with humans, but, do not see why they can not be
> > > recreated if it will make us happy.
> > >
> > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Ken,
> > > >
> > > >   I am glad, I can't imagine God would make a
> > > place
> > > > devoid of all the wonder we have here on earth
> > for
> > > > people to live in - in the afterlife - if
> > anything
> > > > that's where the Unicorns are!!
> > > >
> > > >                                Trisha
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > ken barber
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:47 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > i have no trouble believing that there will be
> > > > animals
> > > > in heaven.
> > > >
> > > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > HI Ken'
> > > > >
> > > > >   Many moons ago - when i was 20, I was
> > engaged
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > Catholic, and was taking Catholism becasue
> > > because
> > > > > it was important to him and its critical that
> > > kids
> > > > > are raised in the church - etc. That's what I
> > am
> > > > > remembering about communion - I couldn't have
> > > > > communion until I was a catholic and then only
> > > > after
> > > > > confession, and Charlie didn't do communion
> > > > because
> > > > > he evidently did something he didn't want to
> > > > confess
> > > > > to. Anyway, in the end the priest and I had a
> > > > > falling out about animals going to Heaven -
> > and
> > > > > Charlie hit me one time to many - so I never
> > did
> > > > > becaome Catholic even tho I use to enjoy going
> > > to
> > > > > mass - go figure.
> > > > >
> > > > >                                TRISHA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> > List
> > > on
> > > > > behalf of ken barber
> > > > > Sent: Sat 3/26/2005 11:25 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject:      Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri
> > > > Schiavo??
> > > > >
> > > > > you may be right trish. i am not catholic, i
> > was
> > > > > raised by a freewill baptist home missionary.
> > > > > sometimes known as "tent maker" becouse he
> > > worked
> > > > a
> > > > > full time job and started churches. when they
> > > > could
> > > > > afford to pay a pastor, he moved on and
> > started
> > > > > another church leaving the other one with a
> > > > regular
> > > > > pastor.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > Ken,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   As far as communion goes - in order to
> > > recieve
> > > > > > communion in the catholic religion you must
> > > have
> > > > > > gone to confession. She not able to confess,
> > > > > > therefore she can't have communion. As to
> > the
> > > > last
> > > > > > rites, they can adminsiter them to the dying
> > > on
> > > > > > accidents scenes - so no doubt they can do
> > > them
> > > > > for
> > > > > > her. But they do them for the dying.And I am
> > > > sure
> > > > > at
> > > > > > some point they will.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                             Trisha
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> >
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