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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:34:26 -0700
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well i did foward one copy only to find that another
post with the same text with a differnt subject line
was there.

--- Gary Peterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>   This message is in MIME format.  The first part
> should be readable text,
>   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable
> without MIME-aware tools.
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> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, ken barber wrote:
>
> > gary, did you know you are replying only to me and
> not
> > the list?
>
> Maby not Ken.  I also got Gary's post.
>
> Take care all-Gary
>
> > --- Gary Norris Gray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> this is a travisty for the american people
> >> i thought nixon and reagan were bad but this guy
> is
> >> just
> >> awful
> >>
> >> President Bush is very Dangerous
> >>
> >> This past month has been disastrous for the
> American
> >> people and the Bush Administration.
> >>
> >> This war is worst than the Viet Nam War.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> This is worse because we are creating enemies of
> our
> >> friends. Germany and France to just name a few.
> The
> >> current American Middle East foreign policies
> have
> >> turned conservative Islamic states against
> >> Americans. Malaysia, Singapore, Saudi Arabia,
> >> Indonesia, and Pakistan use to be friendly
> Islamic
> >> States but with America=92s insistence of going
> to war
> >> alone in Iraq, these states are changing their
> >> collective minds.
> >
> >>
> >> This is worse because is slowly becoming a
> religious
> >> war something that never should have happen.
> >> President Bush has denied this time and time
> again
> >> but it seems that President Bush has insulted the
> >> whole Islamic world by calling the invasion of
> Iraq
> >> " The Crusades". President Bush later changed the
> >> spring military action to "Operation Freedom",
> after
> >> the firestorm of criticism hit the American
> capitol,
> >> Washington D. C.
> >>
> >> This is worse because nobody will ever trust
> America
> >> again. No country will ask for our assistance
> >> because they fear Americans and also fear that
> >> Americas will interfere in their internal
> affairs.
> >> Countries will fear that they will have to
> conform
> >> or compromise their standards and will be
> compelled
> >> to conform to the American political, social, and
> >> economic will.
> >>
> >> What a sorrowful and needless nightmare.
> >>
> >> We are the land of the free, home of the brave,
> yet
> >> we are disgraced because of the recent incidents
> in
> >> Iraqi prisons.
> >>
> >> How can we point our fingers at another nation
> and
> >> tell them that they should comply with the
> world=92s
> >> human rights laws when we cannot do it ourselves?
> >> Take a look at our American prison system and
> >> compare them.
> >>
> >> America may have been justified in going into
> >> Afghanistan for the sole purpose of eliminating
> the
> >> Taliban of its tyrannical rule, but we should
> have
> >> stayed out of Iraq. There are no justifications
> for
> >> political, tactical, or military reasons to
> engage
> >> Iraqi armed forces. We have no business being in
> >> Iraq and now the world is witnessing this
> >> catastrophe.
> >>
> >> The policies of containment would have worked the
> >> same policies the United Nations tried to
> implement
> >> and failed because it lacked United States
> support.
> >>
> >> What happened this month was a complete disgrace
> to
> >> our heroic soldiers of the past. The leader of
> any
> >> country should be a leader who will take full
> >> responsibility for any actions taken by
> >> subservience.
> >>
> >> Somebody higher in the chain of command should
> pay
> >> for this miscarriage of justice.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Now the Bush administration want to blame the
> >> fighting soldiers (NON COMMISSION) for their
> >> discretionary acts on Iraqi prisoners.
> >>
> >> Where did those orders originate? Most Americans
> >> know how the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine
> Corp.
> >> chain of command work. Soldiers never carry out
> an
> >> order without being told by superior officer.
> Once
> >> being instructed this soldier must carry out
> his/her
> >> orders.
> >>
> >> It=92s time for the Bush Administration to honor
> the
> >> soldiers of World War Two, Korea, and Viet Nam by
> >> letting America and Americans the truth.
> >>
> >> We all should pray for the troops fighting in
> Iraq.
> >> It is imperative that we be very cautious
> regarding
> >> the present administration. This is the first
> >> President to ever order an invasion of another
> >> country without pretense of immediate direct
> >> military threat to the United States.
> >>
> >> This leadership does not respect different
> cultures.
> >> They do not respect the word of law; they do not
> >> respect Americans. Do not respect themselves.
> >>
> >> We will pay for these actions because our
> children
> >> are watching this situation. Just like the
> children
> >> of the Reagan era watched corporate greed ruled
> the
> >> 1980=92s. How we remember the World Com and Enron
> >> investigations, the biggest stock market scandal
> in
> >> American history.
> >>
> >> This leads our children to believe that its o.k.
> to
> >> lie, cheat, and steal just to achieve their own
> >> personal agenda. These young Americans will do
> >> anything to become successful in the United
> States.
> >> Malcolm X once said "by any means necessary".
> This
> >> is a set up for very difficult times.
> >>
> >> Mr. President you are sending the wrong message
> to
> >> our young Americans.
> >>
> >> It is time for action. It is time for change.
> >>
> >> As Presidential candidate and now late President
> >> Ronald W. Reagan asked
> >>
> >> "Are you better off now then you were four years
> >> ago"?
> >>
> >> Most of Americans knew this answer then and most
> >> Americans know the answer now.
>
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