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Laura Cleveland <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
Date:
Fri, 12 May 2000 17:47:22 -0400
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Better than a big ass Christian--which is what I thought. ; )

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> From: Kyle E. Cleveland <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Parenting Series #9    - Ten Reasons Not To Hit You Child
> Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:13 PM
>
> A perjorative acronym for "Born Again", I think.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura Cleveland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Parenting Series #9 - Ten Reasons Not To Hit You Child
>
>
> What's a BA?
>
> ----------
> > From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Parenting Series #9    - Ten Reasons Not To Hit You Child
> > Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:24 PM
> >
> > Hi Cindy,
> >
> >         Couple of points here.
> >
> >         I make no moral choices for anyone else. Please note -
yesterday
> > about 15 minutes apart I posted opposing views on the spanking issue.
Of
> > course you do say to me - how openminded and generous - when we all
know
> I a
> > vehemently against violence. To you brought the abortion issue -
killing
> is
> > killing is killing in my view and I choose not to do it - I try to kill
> > nothing - I carry bugs outside. I have certainly accidently about 20
> years
> > ago I hit a squirrel with my car - to this day I remember it and grieve
> over
> > the little squirrel soul. I would not have an abortion - however, do
not
> > place myself in the position of God and decided what someone else
should
> or
> > should nor do. I have noticed most Pro_lifer are also very much for the
> > Death sentence and guns - etc. So some killing is okay as along as you
so
> > determine it is and some isn't. In otherwords - you play God.
> >
> >       I have have been extremely open about the fact I am not, have
never
> > been and will never be Christian and yet you seek to pursaude me with
the
> > very book - I do not believe in. Yep, that will certainly change my
mind.
> > And I don't know whether you are the disabled one or you have a
disabled
> > spouse or child - but do read Leviticus 21 - verses 16 thru 23 - in the
> KJV
> > version - which I understand is the irrefuable truth. I  feel it says
> much
> > about God's views on the disabled - God - speaking to Moses.....
> >
> >
> > 21:16 - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
> > 21:17 - Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their
> >         generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to
offer
> >         the bread of his God.
> > 21:18 - For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not
> >         approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose,
or
> >         any thing superfluous,
> > 21:19 - Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
> > 21:20 - Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye,
or
> >         be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
> > 21:21 - No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest
shall
> >         come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he
> >         hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of
his
> >         God.
> > 21:22 - He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and
of
> >         the holy.
> > 21:23 - Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the
> >         altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my
> >         sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.
> > 21:24 - And Moses told it unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the
> >         children of Israel.
> >
> >         Seems your "God" feels the disabled are a descration in his
> > sanctuaries and doesn't want them there. Gee, certainly,the God I would
> want
> > if I where disabled.
> >
> >         The Bible may be quoted to prove or disprove anything - Please
> get a
> > clue. If you find it necessary to tell your child - Its wrong to hit
> another
> > person and then hit - spank them to punish them at least have the have
> the
> > intestinal fortitude to see you are not practicing what you are
> preaching.
> > So tell your children - you may not hit another person until you have
> > children - then it is okay, becasue it is sactioned by GOD.
> >
> >       Now ,next time - give your own opinion - I respect that. I also
can
> > quote the Bible to prove anything I want. I am however forbidden to
harm.
> To
> > argue with you - if you are a BA - is an act futility, and to agrue
with
> > another - could have them question their faith, and be considered an
act
> of
> > harm. Therefore - when I do not refute your Bible verse horse hockey -
It
> is
> > becasue I choose not to Harm, not becasue I can't refute them. I can.
Not
> > only that I have 3 different versions of the Bible - ironically they
all
> say
> > something very different. I have chosen the above as an example. I
> already
> > know what your going to say about quoting out of context, and all the
> other
> > arguements. Let it go - I will never choose Christian over my beliefs -
> but
> > I also don't expect you to give up your Christian beliefs.
> >
> >                       Brightest Blessings
> >                            Trisha

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