On Thursday 31 Jul 2003 10:24 pm, you wrote:
> Interesting, because my father's family were shop-owners, not very
> religious from what I've seen.  My grandfather's grave down in Svannah
> doesn't even have the traditional 'Ben - ' meaning 'Son of -' on his
> gravestone.  My dad and his brothers never had Bar Mitzvahs, but they
> were circumstised.  Neither my dad or either of his two brothers were
> ever pro-union and my family has always been anti-union as well as quite
> conservative in politics.
>
> My grandmother whose family was from the Ukraine, near Kiev, were
> wealthy by their standards, yet they came to America around 1898 for a
> better life.  Which goes to show just how bad things were for the Jews
> there.
>
> Kat
>

It wasn't too good for anyone who was poor