Well, who elects these politicians? If we chose stupid politicians to
represent us, I'd think we're getting what we voted for.
Kat
Original Message:
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From: Linda Walker [log in to unmask]
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:32:03 -1000
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Let's Shift Gears ....
You are correct. Teachers not paid enough, classes too large, parents
expect too much, etc. however there are some awesome teaching
materials put out by the anti defamation league that teach kindness
and understanding and when it is not taught in the home I think it
can be taught as part of good citizenship. I've interviewed many kids
raised by racist parents and many of them reject the ideas of their
parents simply from knowing right from wrong and most kids have a
sense of fairness and justice. I think our democracy is in peril
because of the schools and I am not blaming teachers for this but
citizens and politicians who do not seem to appreciate how important
education is. What if we spent one week of the Iraq war budget on
schools. Soapbox standing down. Gotta prepare for my trip to New
Orleans. Excited as I've never been there.
At 05:54 AM 11/1/2007, you wrote:
>Kyle,
>
>You hit on a very important issue in your last post...People seem to
>think that the responsibility for raising good kids lies almost
>exclusively with the SCHOOL...well, as a teacher, I can tell you I
>certainly try and teach kids good manners, respect, compassion etc.,
>but let;s not forget that I have a VERY packed curriculum to teach of
>ACADEMIC information. When I first started teaching, I worked a year
>at a more rural district in very conservative, blue collar Amish
>country. Let me tell ya, those kids were the best behaved, well-
>mannered. Some didn't even have running hot water at their house,
>but they knew how to say thank you. And if I ever had a problem, I
>just called home and all was solved. Then I went to work in a
>district that is very wealthy and the kids expected you to give them
>what they wanted, hardly ever appreciated things, and parents excused
>their rude behavior or not doing work by making excuses. School
>can't fix lack of parenting (although I tried!).
>
>Linda M.
>On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Cleveland, Kyle E. wrote:
>
> > Actually, Linda, I think you'll find that the bulk of school shooting
> > incidents are by kids that have been bullied, not the other way
> > around.
> >
> > All the training in the world does not change hearts--especially kids.
> > If these were effective tools we'd have little drug use in school,
> > limited teen pregnancy rates, cigarette smoking among the young
> > would be
> > declining instead of increasing. A lot of research points to the
> > destruction of the nuclear family as a major cause of these ills--we
> > can't paper that over with "training".
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Linda Walker
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:18 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Let's Shift Gears ....
> >
> > Bullies these days are taking guns to school and shooting people. I
> > think we need more training on understanding the other guys point of
> > view, on how important diversity is, and on kindness and compassion.
> > Kids are tough. They have to deal with all kinds of adult realities
> > at much earlier ages than before - drugs in junior high, sexual
> > acting out from I think too much exposure by what is portrayed in the
> > media, early onset puberty, societal violence so that they are not
> > even playing outside in many neighborhoods. We need health care and
> > family stability. Who are the bullies anyhow. Kids who are not
> > getting what they need at home and in school to progress successfully.
> >
> > At 12:11 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote:
> >> You know, I read an article recently in which a researcher was quoted
> > as
> >> saying we need to let our kids learn to deal with bullies - you
> >> know,
> >> let them toughen up. It seems we are raising a generation of whiny
> >> brats who can't deal with the realities of life. I have to say I
> >> kind
> >> of agree with him.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >>
> >> Deri James wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 02:05:02 kat wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for setting us straight, Deri! Now you've got me feeling
> > sick
> >>>> that a disabled person can use her disability to "beat the system."
> > Ugh!
> >>>> Gives the rest of us a bad name.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Kat,
> >>>
> >>> I do not know if I'm right, its just that I realised while
> >> reading that if you
> >>> take away the disability element the things she describes happen to
> > many,
> >>> many people, who do not have the opportunity to sue.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I realised that it seems the whole case revolves around her
> >> disability,
> >>> the article says she is actually suing the company for sexual
> > harrassment
> >>> (not discrimination - probably because all her cited instances of
> >>> discrimination occurred outside work in a social setting).
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Deri
> >>>
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