sent to mag instead of list. i always forget that i
need to change the return address for mag. then end up
forwarding it to list.
> i think your plan is good mag. i think probably some
> of the psych stuff is going on more so than actual
> physical torture. but of course, if they told us,
> then
> it would be no good next time.
>
> --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> > I would start by putting psychological pressure on
> > him, then i'd bring in
> > some kind of religious referrences, in effect,
> > create a night of holy
> > rollers only in arabic, het him in a frenzy and
> not
> > thinking straight, then
> > i'd pipe in a voice of Allah that would alternate
> > between subtle and
> > commanding to get him to talk.
> >
> > Tamar Raine
> > [log in to unmask]
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> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: 10/28/2006 7:06:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: another black eye for the
> > administration...
> > >
> > > Ken, did you see the history channel's
> > documentaries on Islamic
> > > fundamentalists? I was just wondering if you
> had,
> > and what you thought
> > > about the documentaries.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > ken barber
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 8:08 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: another black eye for the
> > administration...
> > >
> > > well if it would work it would be better, but,
> you
> > > yourself had to assume the terrorist was going
> to
> > be
> > > of less intelligence. and my whole point is that
> > it is
> > > not likely that a war can be won if you treat
> > every
> > > enemy person like and american law breaker. are
> we
> > > going to strat reading rights as we are
> capturing
> > > enemy fighters? what about discovery, how will
> you
> > > keep classified imformation sevret in a civil
> > court
> > > when you get to the discovery process. there is
> a
> > > reason why article 2 gives the president
> > certainpowers
> > > during war time thathe does not have at other
> > times.
> > >
> > > it was implied that i was being simplistic in
> > thinking
> > > evverything is black ands white. so i put that
> > case
> > > out there to see if anyone could give me a way
> to
> > get
> > > the one terrorist to give up any information
> > without
> > > violating the constitution (assuming we gave
> those
> > > rights). not one plan came in but yours, and yet
> > it
> > > would violate the rights if they were given,
> even
> > if
> > > we assume the terrorist were dumb enough to fall
> > for
> > > it.
> > >
> > > not a one gave a credible plan. now multiply the
> > > number of terrorist involved by thousands, and
> > > multiply the number of people who could be
> killed
> > if
> > > intelligence fails to stop plots, and you are
> > looking
> > > at how hard it is for our government people
> trying
> > to
> > > protect the country.
> > >
> > > and if you guys are challenged with this logic,
> > the
> > > best you do is accuss us of questioning your
> > > patriotism. especially after i challenged on our
> > > troops killing children. not on purpose they
> > don't.
> > >
> > > --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe, but it's a lot better than torture,
> isn't
> > it?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > ken barber
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 1:23 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: another black eye for the
> > > > administration...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > would this not violate the right to privacy
> and
> > be
> > > > unconstitutional in the United States?
> > > >
> > > > oh, they are not less intelligent than we are.
> > they
> > > > are quite cunning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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