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Salkin Kathleen <[log in to unmask]>
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You thinking ice here or are they on thin ice?  (I agree with the latter).

Kat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cleveland, Kyle E." <[log in to unmask]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Can't stand it anymore....


> William Raspberry had an interesting Op/Ed in today's Washington Post.  He
> postulated, albeit slightly tongue-in-cheek, that the saber-rattling is
just
> that: something to make Sadaam think about the implications of a
unilateral
> U.S. action.  Read it (for free) at:
>
http://www.dispatch.com/editorials-story.php?story=dispatch/news/editorials0
> 2/sep02/1459397.html
>
> I think Raspberry makes the point well that the adminisration has to come
up
> with a better rationale for attack.  They're on think ice, logically, at
the
> moment.
>
> -Kyle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barber, Kenneth L.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 8/29/02 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't stand it anymore....
>
>  i can't disagree. there will be changes if saddam falls, from us or
> from
> within. and i'll say this, noi matter how well intended mr bush might
> be,
> the changes may very well be different from what he expects. may be
> different that what others expect. it will be unpredictable. i want him
> to
> be careful what ever he does. i pray that if we do something or refrain
> from
> doing something, that it will be right for our country first and then
> right
> for the rest of the innocent people of the world.
> i'll interject here that saddam is a dictator, but, then so are the
> leaders
> of most of the mid east countrys including our buddies in the house of
> Sauld. the common people don't get any of that oil money.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salkin Kathleen
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 8/29/2002 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't stand it anymore....
>
> Well, I can see your point, but Sadaam isn't going on a conquest here,
> taking over other countries.  If what I've heard is right, he's having
> enough problems keeping a hold of his own.  When he dies,  so will his
> regime, as is usually the case with dictators.
>
> True, we don't have to go with the world at large, but we cannot afford
> to
> stand alone, in my opinion, especially as the economy becomes more
> global
> and what one country does will affect others.
>
> I don't have any answers, either, and like you, I'm just a lowly peon
> (used
> to be a civil servant as a matter of fact). but can tell you from my
> Anthropological studies that when cultures change,  the repercussions
> are
> overwhelming and so eventually affects more than just the culture
> itself.
> Same thing with everything else that changes in life.  We need to be
> very
> very careful and consider the consequences globally.
>
> Kat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barber, Kenneth L." <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Can't stand it anymore....
>
>
> > you have allready saw that i do not know what the answer is, but, if
> we
> are
> > wrong, it does not matter that we had the worlds backing. if we are
> right,
> > it does not matter that we do not have the worlds backing. failire to
> act
> in
> > the past allowed hitler to kill 6 million people. i do not know what
> the
> > right answer is, but world backing does not decide what the right
> answer
> is.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trisha Cummings
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: 8/29/2002 3:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Can't stand it anymore....
> >
> > Hi Kat,
> >
> >    I agree with you. Frankly since we don't have the world's backing -
> > this
> > makes us a Rogue nation and we tend to take a hardline with those - as
> > long
> > as its not us. I may be way off base but it could well trigger
> something
> > much bigger and nastier than we truly want. My Dad - long time
> military
> > guy
> > - is against it also -
> >
> >                                           Trisha
> >
> >
> > > OK, I may not get many people happy with me for saying this, but I
> > don't
> > > think
> > > it's the smartest move, making a move on Iraq without Sadaam moving
> > first.
> > > We
> > > ended the war in the Persian Gulf back in 1991 and to go back there
> > now,
> > > 10
> > > years later and strike at them without provocation is not terribly
> > smart,
> > > in
> > > my opinion.  I'd be very surprised if we weren't called into the
> World
> > > Court
> > > at The Hague and not charged with war crimes for it.
> > >
> > > To the rest of the world it's irrelevent whether Bush I finished the
> > job
> > > or
> > > not.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:29:20 EDT "BG Greer, PhD"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >     Yeah. I believe that George II feels if he
> > > > can't get Osama, he'll finish
> > > > what George
> > > > I did not. Seems like we will really piss the
> > > > Muslim world off more than we
> > > > have already. That is not bad in itself, but we
> > > > will not stick around to
> > > > finish the job.
> > > >
> > > > Bobby
> > > > >Yes, it does. I appreciate kyle letting us
> > > > know.
> > > > >I need to call my brother to see if the
> > > > reserves are getting ready for
> > > > >more
> > > > >call ups. Of course many time he can't tell
> > > > me.
> > > > >
> > > >

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