Anyone who liked The Fast Runner, which I haven't seen but have heard a lot about, should seek out a little-known one called The Pathfinder. It's based on a Scandinavian folk tale or legend about a young boy's journey to adulthood. It's a very simple but suspenseful and beautiful movie. I don't know many people who have seen it.
-=-Dan
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1. BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 7 Aug 2002 to 8 Aug 2002 (#2002-212)
2. The Times West Virginian and IPTW
3. Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a... (6)
4. What is GFRC? (9)
5. BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 7 Aug 2002 to 8 Aug 2002
(#2002-212)
6. Brownstone vs. .... permastone (2)
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:55:30 -0400
From: "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 7 Aug 2002 to 8 Aug 2002 (#2002-212)
Thanks to everyone who responded about my mortar problem. =20
We are somewhat resolved now to keep our original and specified mortar
mix, which I didn't think of as Type K but as a modified Type N. Type K
isn't in the ASTM charts. This is a slow-curing hard mortar, which
should test at 5-700 psi in 7 days and cure to 12-1500 psi at 90 days.
It matches the original design, and we believe this was specified to
allow for all kinds of movement in the face brick of large brick walls
with no expansion joints. It has served the 89 nine year old building
extremely well.
The problem is that it can't be mixed or handled the same as cement or
cement-lime conventional mortars. We have good advice from John
Zarzecki at SME supporting our decision to stay with the design. We are
working with the contractor to make his adjustments and keep to specs.
And, for the record, my husband and I loved "The Fast Runner". Yes,
it's almost 3 hours in Innuit, but it is beautiful. It is a fable of a
lost culture, and the story is beautifully told. Ralph was not fully
prepared for the experience; it helps to know in advance that it is
almost 3 hours long and subtitled. Don't forget to stay for the
credits, too, as they show a bit about how the movie was filmed in the
horrific climate. Anyway, support your local alternative and downtown
historic theaters!
QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
219 1/2 N. Main Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:22:15 -0400
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
In a message dated Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:14:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> That figures, the man was bi-polar.
And a bricklayer and painter, too. Does that make him multipolar?
And speaking of polar, and boring, don't ANYBODY ever see a movie called
The Fast Runner. Mrs. Ralph dragged me to it, and why I sat through 3
hours a Eskimo Domestic Disputes is a mystery. And to think I sat on
the same ass that got pinched lo those many years ago. Maybe there
isn't a mystery after all.
Ralph
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:51:54 -0400
From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Mortar Strength
I read Mark Clark's message with interest, because:
1. Mea culpa. It makes me realize that I misread the original posting,
which describes a Type K, not Type O mix and 2. It underscores the
confusion in the grey areas surrounding the borderline between all-lime
and cement-lime blends.
It seems to me that Mark approaches the question from the point of view
of someone accustomed to working with pure lime mixes, whereas,
admittedly, our work has almost entirely involved cement-lime blends. We
do millions of pounds of Type N and Type O mortars, smaller and more
infrequent runs of Type K's.
The main reason I am given by conservators for specifying Type K is to
gain early frost and rain resistance, an important consideration in the
Northern states. The curing requirements are also reduced, as are lime
streaking tendencies, which can be of value when engaging commercial
restoration contractors who have not mastered the art of employing more
traditional materials, a commercial reality.
The 3:1 sand to cementitious materials ratio is correct for Type K,
although I would agree with Mark that most all-lime mortar recipes I
have seen use less sand. I disagree with the comments about Type I White
Portland cement, however. White cement is not made white by higher
temperature firing, it is white due to lower iron content in the rock
used as feedstock for the cement plant. Type I White cement must meet
the same performance requirements as Type I grey cement, under ASTM
C150.
What may be confusing to those who rely on feel and observation, rather
than quantitative methods, is that in order to maintain a certain level
of brightness, cement producers often grind their white Portland to a
finer particle size, similar to a Type III grey cement. This produces a
little faster hydration due to increased surface area, but the ultimate
strength is unchanged.
We have used white cement in Type K mortars without any reported
difficulties. While I am inclined to agree that mortars which are too
hard are a potential disaster, I am also inclined to question what
represents "too hard" in many situations. Certainly the age and design
of the building, the hardness of the stone or masonry, and the weather
exposures are important engineering concerns. Sometimes engineering
approaches may point you in opposite directions from typical
preservation philosophies. I tend to encourage the use of critical
analysis as to the true needs of each particluar situation.
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
email: [log in to unmask]
Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:41:32 -0400
From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: The Times West Virginian and IPTW
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http://www.timeswv.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=3088
http://www.timeswv.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=3112
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:26:11 EDT
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
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[log in to unmask] writes:
> Mrs. Ralph dragged me to it, and why I sat through 3 hours a Eskimo Domestic
> Disputes is a mystery.
Because she told you to.
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:56:40 -0400
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
In a message dated Thu, 8 Aug 2002 8:26:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Because she told you to.
Steve,
I always said you were a fart smeller, too.
Ilene and Mr. Ilene must be so starved for culture out there in the midwestern flatlands that they think this stupid movie was good. Even Mrs. Ralph, who hails from the Holy Town of Oak Park, IL, couldn't stand it. And I DID stay for the credits, which include the information that the names of the Eskimo actors, whose characters have names like Igloomukluk Muklukigloo, are actually Barbara Muklukigloo and John Whaleblubbereater. It wasn't possible to keep all these Eskimos straight, given the fact that their characters had 15 letter names (instead of John and Barbara), they all looked identical, and that's with their clothes OFF, all had teeth that seemed to be discarded mason's tools and mumbled in Eskimo.
ZZZZZZZZZZz.
Ralph
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:04:12 EDT
From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: What is GFRC?
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Have I described it accurately as "Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete"?
or Gaga Fake Rainbow Chocolate?
or Go Fish Reindeer Chowder?
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:42:30 -0400
From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 7 Aug 2002 to 8 Aug 2002
(#2002-212)
our original and specified mortar
> mix, which I didn't think of as Type K but as a modified Type N.
Type K
> isn't in the ASTM charts.
> Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
>
Type K mortar is listed in Appendix X3 - Tuck Pointing Mortar, in ASTM
C270. It is described as 1 part Portland cement, 2.25 to 4 parts lime,
and 2.25 to 3 times the total volume of cement and lime for the sand.
It is listed in the Appendix as an alternate to Type O for exterior,
above grade service, exposed on one side, unlikely to be frozen when
saturated, not subject to high wind or significant lateral load.
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
email: [log in to unmask]
Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:44:31 -0400
From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
I vote for Good for Future Restoration Contractors.
Mike E.
>
> Have I described it accurately as "Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete"?
>
> or Gaga Fake Rainbow Chocolate?
>
> or Go Fish Reindeer Chowder?
>
>
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
email: [log in to unmask]
Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:30:18 EDT
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
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> ZZZZZZZZZZz.
Narcolepsy... remember!
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">ZZZZZZZZZZz.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Narcolepsy... remember!</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:42:55 -0400
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
In a message dated Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:04:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Have I described it accurately as "Glass Fiber Reinforced
> Concrete"?
>
> or Gaga Fake Rainbow Chocolate?
Depends on whose building you're trashing. Ya hump.
Ralph
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:50:20 -0400
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
In a message dated Thu, 8 Aug 2002 2:30:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Narcolepsy... remember!
No, that was Vic Hitler.
I have sleep apnea, and the heart surgery is scheduled for Sept 12. Somehow, I didn't want the 11th. Besides which, I get out of fasting for Yom Kippur. Do I know how to plan, or what?
Ralph
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:03:33 EDT
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete (GFRC) is correct.
Above the entry, right above the door, to the Barnes & Noble at Union Square
the full width of the stone water table with dentals is GFRC made to
replicate the existing stone on the building. The units are held in place
with stainless steel anchors and the joints are caulked with a urethane
sealant. I have a section of same sitting in my back yard getting weathered.
GFRC in my experience has better color retention than figerglass, and can be
made to look very much like the stone it is often fabricated to mimic. It is
molded, faster to fabricate and cheaper than carved stone as well as lighter
in weight, reducing transportation and installation time and cost. The shell,
as I remember it, is +/- 1/2" thickness.
][<en
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:05:21 EDT
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
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> I vote for Good for Future Restoration Contractors.
Aha! Nothing like a little chemistry. Good for current restoration
contractors and their desendents as well.
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I vote for Good for Future Restoration Contractors.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Aha! Nothing like a little chemistry. Good for current restoration contractors and their desendents as well.<BR>
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:06:29 EDT
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
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writes:
> I have sleep apnea
I like it when you talk technical.
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have sleep apnea</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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I like it when you talk technical.<BR>
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:18:22 -0400
From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
> Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete (GFRC) is correct.
>
> Above the entry, right above the door, to the Barnes & Noble at
Union Square
> the full width of the stone water table with dentals is GFRC made to
> replicate the existing stone on the building. The units are held in
place
> with stainless steel anchors and the joints are caulked with a
urethane
> sealant. I have a section of same sitting in my back yard getting
weathered.
> GFRC in my experience has better color retention than figerglass,
and can be
> made to look very much like the stone it is often fabricated to
mimic. It is
> molded, faster to fabricate and cheaper than carved stone as well as
lighter
> in weight, reducing transportation and installation time and cost.
The shell,
> as I remember it, is +/- 1/2" thickness.
>
> ][<en
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
I have seen it used as a terra cotta substitute. On one project,
completed in 1997 in PA, some of the building was done in GFRC, some
is patched and coated terra cotta and some is original terra cotta.
The patched and coated TC looks a lot more like the original now,
after a few years, than the GFRC.
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
email: [log in to unmask]
Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:48:55 -0700
From: JRhodes <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
Re ][<en's answer:
>Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete (GFRC) is correct.
Right. (and GFRP = ....polymer. Some other countries just call it FRC.)
I have seen cornices made of GFRC, replicating stone or terracotta.
Virtue is that the sun's UV doesn't attack GFRC like it can plastics,
yet fabrications are thinner than steel reinforced concrete
considering the coverage you need for weathering. I have heard of
weathered GFRC getting a touch of the "fuzzies" when the fibers start
prickling out.
We used GFRC as the back-up arch for the replicated Guastavino tile
over the Grand Central taxi entrance. Original vault was the
historic Guastavino 3 tile built up system since the original could
be laid up from overhead before the elevated roadway went into place.
GFRC allowed us to replicate the shape, work quickly and provide a
sound back-up to standard tile, working entirely from below. But
don't get the idea that GFRC is really lightweight. Relative to
steel reinforced precast, yes, but at 1/2, 3/4 and thickened toward
reinforced perimeters, it can still get pretty heavy.
The Rev'
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:59:00 EDT
From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
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We used it to replicate early cast concrete ornament and decorative cornice
work on Mills Mansion (McKim Mead White) in Staatsburg, NY. Fabricated by
Mike McLeod and Co., the stuff has weathered very well. The original
modillions, individually cast by Italian craftspersons, were partially
supported by wires strapped to mild steel pipe set into the modillion walls.
When the pipe corroded, the mods. fell on passersby. We painted the stuff -
the glass fibres will break down under UV load.
Twybil
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>We used it to replicate early cast concrete ornament and decorative cornice work on Mills Mansion (McKim Mead White) in Staatsburg, NY. Fabricated by Mike McLeod and Co., the stuff has weathered very well. The original modillions, individually cast by Italian craftspersons, were partially supported by wires strapped to mild steel pipe set into the modillion walls. When the pipe corroded, the mods. fell on passersby. We painted the stuff - the glass fibres will break down under UV load.
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:47:35 EDT
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Could we sign them up on B-P? Perhaps that would have a...
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writes:
> I like it when you talk technical.
>
Does it lull you to sleep?
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I like it when you talk technical.<BR>
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Does it lull you to sleep?<BR>
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:06:36 EDT
From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Brownstone vs. .... permastone
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Which is preferable? To keep a solid, intact facade of "real" permastone?
Or to replace it with tinted stucco - fake brownstone.
Christopher
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:12:53 -0700
From: Peter epperly <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
Ken, Could we talk? I think it would be good for you and good for me. My
No. is 510-928-3254 cell; Office No. 510-215-2298 & Fax.
> From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: "Darling, all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene
> Croce"<[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:03:33 EDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What is GFRC?
>
> Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete (GFRC) is correct.
>
> Above the entry, right above the door, to the Barnes & Noble at Union Square
> the full width of the stone water table with dentals is GFRC made to
> replicate the existing stone on the building. The units are held in place
> with stainless steel anchors and the joints are caulked with a urethane
> sealant. I have a section of same sitting in my back yard getting weathered.
> GFRC in my experience has better color retention than figerglass, and can be
> made to look very much like the stone it is often fabricated to mimic. It is
> molded, faster to fabricate and cheaper than carved stone as well as lighter
> in weight, reducing transportation and installation time and cost. The shell,
> as I remember it, is +/- 1/2" thickness.
>
> ][<en
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 01:29:14 EDT
From: "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Brownstone vs. .... permastone
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In a message dated 8/8/2002 8:16:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Which is preferable? To keep a solid, intact facade of "real" permastone?
> Or to replace it with tinted stucco - fake brownstone.
You know, that name "Permastone," sounds like an embalming fluid or slang for
viagra. What in the heck is Permastone?
MJ
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"><B>In a message dated 8/8/2002 8:16:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Which is preferable? To keep a solid, intact facade of "real" permastone? Or to replace it with tinted stucco - fake brownstone. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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You know, that name "Permastone," sounds like an embalming fluid or slang for viagra. What in the heck is Permastone?<BR>
MJ</B></FONT></HTML>
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