I agree about the river beds. I'm not advocating that, but for Mountain top miners to put it back anywhere close to the way it was, would make it way too expensive. I did a study of floods on the Cumberland. The statistics show flooding is proportional to the price of coal. Flooding actually went down, the year the first Strip Mine Reclamation act was put in place. Of course mountaintop removal  dwarfs the old strip mining. With increases in parking lots without retention basins and other defoliation of the forests plus added rain pulses due to global warming, we will see more flooding than even before the TVA remediation (that probably due to clear cutting). Timber companies are now starting in again on the forests cut 100 years ago, plus exotic insects are attacking the pine and hemlock forests. Many people in the downstream cities who don't see the connection between their cheap power and the coming floods will blame it on God like everything else.

That's my rant anyway.

Larry2


---- Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
> Larry Simpson wrote:
> > I have to confess that I forgot about it, but I am an avid off-switcher.
> Larry,
> 
> Interesting comments. By the way, I had a real fun time reading The Lost 
> Cave of the Jaguar Prophets. I have not got around to writing about it, 
> but hope to do so soon.
> > Mountain top mining is a marginal business that is propped up by negligent legislators.
> Covering over 1,200 miles of otherwise potable waterways is not exactly 
> too smart either.
> > The internet is the other big energy user. Google has plans to build their own hydro dam and already uses solar roof tops.
> >   
> I have read about Google's hydro plans but since they are using the 
> Columbia River there is a bit of controversy about the environmental 
> issues with that.
> > The last big user of unnecessary energy is the Military. If Obama wants to save energy, closing down unnecessary bases and stopping unnecessary use of vehicles, ships and planes.
> A great deal of the stimulus plan has to do with energy retrofit and 
> conservation (insulation of buildings) at military installations.
> 
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