In a message dated 10/12/99 5:28:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< there is a gradual shift towards bigger and bigger firms which combine
both design and construction.  Of course, the subcontractors are still there,
so now it is the designers and the construction managers who are in bed
together, and the little guys still get screwed.  Maybe there will be a
change at that end too.  And maybe this can flow over to historic
preservation.   >>

From what I hear of the design-build world, the architect may be in bed, but
we're doing more catching than pitching.  And when there are wet spots in the
histo presto bed, you can bet who's going to get to sleep in them.

Ralph (the Optimist)