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Yes I think information on SIA will be of interest to the membership.
Check out the PTN at www.ptn.org.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 06:57 PM, Dan Lane wrote:

> John, The Society for Industrial Archaeology is having their annual
> meeting at Drew University on November 2nd.  There will be talks on a
> variety of subjects, but most pertinent seem to be 'The Brownstone
> Quarrying Industry in New Jersey,' and 'American Aqueducts.'  I am not
> a PTN member, but some of this stuff seems like it may be of interest.
> Let me know if you want the low-down on either or any of the talks for
> your newsletter as I will be attending.
>
> -=-Dan Lane
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:13:47 -0400
> From:    john <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: PTNEWS
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> The Preservation Trades Network is now doing a newsletter.  I am working
> on Vol 1. #2.  I am looking for information as shown in the outline.  If
> you have a contribution please send it to me as a microsoft word file.
>
> First; Front Page = Interest article    (750 - 1000)
> I need an interest article
>
>         Recent IPTW
>                 I need reflections on IPTW
>
>   Membership Activity           Letters from members or others (500
> words)
>
>         News about members
>
> Moving to new responsibilities (50 to 75)
>
> Receiving awards (35 t0 75)
>
> Preservation Trades News
>         I need information in this area
>         Exhibits related to trades and building technology (50 -100)
>         Conferences and tours related to Preservation Trades. (50 -100)
>         Training related to Preservation Trades (50 -100)
>          Building conservation projects of interest (250 - 500)
>    Employment opportunities (50-100)
> Position available
> Positions sought
> Volunteer opportunitie
>
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> There are 11 messages totalling 575 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Stained Glass
>   2. Winter?
>   3. Lanai (2)
>   4. Why is everybody always criticizing...
>   5. Silkscreened Stained Glass (4)
>   6. cork floors
>   7. PTNEWS
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> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 08:48:40 -0400
> From:    "Ilene R. Tyler" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Stained Glass
>
> Stained Glass is NOT painted with paints or inks, it's "painted" with
> glass that is fused in an oven.  The painting is permanent;  you cannot
> scrape off stained glass painting.  Poorly adhered, usually poorly
> fired, painting scrapes off.  The pattern is applied with a brush or
> with a stencil, and there is no fixer other than heat.  It also cannot
> be refired to apply more painting or to repair existing failing
> painting.  Repairs could consider adding a clear piece with the restored
> painting fired onto it, then laminated over the original piece inserted
> into the lead cames.  This is complicated and should be done in a shop
> and under the supervision of a stained glass conservator.  Depending on
> your area, I might be able to recommend someone.  Many of you may know
> Art Femenella, New Jersey;  he is a good resource for exacting repairs.
> We've encountered this similar problem on windows, and there are number
> of decisions to determine whether the "painting" should be conserved in
> context with the entire project.  More later...
>
>
> QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
>
> Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
>
>
>
> Date:    Sat, 19 Oct 2002 09:53:56 -0400
> From:    "Robert J. Cagnetta" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Silkscreened Stained Glass
>
> We have some 1883 church glass that seems to be silkscreened, with a
> wash of color in some parts of the design.  We can see the "movement" in
> the pattern that may suggest a screening, yet it does not easliy scrape
> off.  Is there a "fixer" of some sort applied over it to stabilize it?
> And are the inks still available?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:16:56 -0500
> From:    John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Winter?
>
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> Not that anyone keeps track of developments out this way...but it is
> snowing.  It is sticking.  It is covering roofs and the ground.  It was
> predicted that the UP would get a foot of the stuff last night.  Don't
> know if it happened or not.  Pretty normal up there I suppose.  And I am
> not in principal opposed to early snow.  But this year I would just as
> soon this snow wasn't still on the ground in April.
>
> Of course our Canadian bretheren have already laid in the firewood,
> stocked the storage locker and settled in with a pile of good books to
> read this winter.
>
> -jc
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:13:24 -0400
> From:    John Leeke <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Lanai
>
> Spencer:
>
> I noticed your Hawaii address and thought you might have something to
> offer
> on this. I am working on a new Preservation Brief on the subject of
> porch
> preservation for the National Park Service. Could you help me define
> what a
> "lanai" is and help me find a good example of one, perhaps on one of the
> older buildings there in Hawaii?
>
> John Leeke
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:46:12 EDT
> From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Why is everybody always criticizing...
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> In a message dated 10/18/02 10:43:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>>
>>>>> I haven't received the daily digest regularly for the last
>>>> two weeks and am wondering if there is anything wrong?
>>>
>>> Some would consider that a blessing
>>
>>
>
> What, and not get to separate the wheat from the chaff yourself?
>
>  Might as well have someone else pick your dog.  Or your nose.  But not
> your
> dog's nose.
>
> Ralph
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/18/02 10:43:08 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; I haven't
> received the daily digest regularly for the last <BR>
> &gt; two weeks and am wondering if there is anything wrong? <BR>
> <BR>
> Some would consider that a blessing</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
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> <BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">What, and not get to separate
> the wheat from the chaff yourself? <BR>
> <BR>
>  Might as well have someone else pick your dog.&nbsp; Or your
> nose.&nbsp; But not your dog's nose.<BR>
> <BR>
> Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:59:17 EDT
> From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Silkscreened Stained Glass
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> In a message dated 10/19/02 9:48:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> Rob,
>
>> The other thing is that the existing linoleom has a burlap backing.  I
>> believe this was standard in the olden days; worked as reinforcement.
>> Could
>> this be original? I would say so. It lies ove a unremarkable face
>> nailed T&
>> G floor, which now people like this old subfloor. Yeah, well, there are
>> also the jerks who tear ornamental plaster off common brick; onee would
>> hope it's don less nowadays than it used to be, but most of the real
>> stuff
>> has probably been "adaptively reused" away by now. These are among the
>> wonders of the modern world-- stuff They thought was shit, We think is
>> gold.Someday we will be clear coating fiberboard.  I tried varnishing
>> particleboard for use as kitchen countertops in my kitchen in Joisey
>> City.
>> It looked OK initially, but I have a feeling it may not have done so
>> well
>> once it got wet. Anyway, wanted to see if this could be original as
>> well.
>> Yeah, it just wasn't meant to be exposed, or at least not to be
>> exposed to
>> polite society.
>>
>> And remember, if you are going to shoot your hand with a nail gun, be
>> sure
>> that the nails are stainless steel. I should think it would be be
>> better
>> not to shoot oneself with a regular gun nail than to shoot it with a
>> stainless nail, but that's just my personal opinion. Others may
>> disagree.
>> Less infection.
>>
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
> 10/19/02 9:48:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <B>Rob,<BR>
> </B><BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The other thing
> is that the existing linoleom has a burlap backing.&nbsp; <B>I believe
> this was standard in the olden days; worked as reinforcement.
> </B>Could<BR>
> this be original? <B>I would say so.</B> It lies ove a unremarkable
> face nailed T&amp;G floor, which now people like this old subfloor.
> <B>Yeah, well, there are also the jerks who tear ornamental plaster off
> common brick; onee would hope it's don less nowadays than it used to
> be, but most of the real stuff has probably been "adaptively reused"
> away by now.</B> <B>These are among the wonders of the modern world--
> stuff They thought was shit, We think is gold.</B>Someday we will be
> clear coating fiberboard.&nbsp; <B>I tried varnishing particleboard for
> use as kitchen countertops in my kitchen in Joisey City.&nbsp; It
> looked OK initially, but I have a feeling it may not have done so well
> once it got wet. </B>Anyway, wanted to see if this could be original as
> well.&nbsp; <B>Yeah, it just wasn't meant to be exposed, or at least
> not to be exposed to polite society.</B><BR>
> <BR>
> And remember, if you are going to shoot your hand with a nail gun, be
> sure<BR>
> that the nails are stainless steel. <B>I should think it would be be
> better not to shoot oneself with a regular gun nail than to shoot it
> with a stainless nail, but that's just my personal opinion. Others may
> disagree.</B> Less infection.<BR>
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> <BR>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:11:44 -1000
> From:    "Spencer A. Leineweber" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Lanai
>
> John:
>
> There are lots of great examples of lanai on historic buildings. I will
> send you back channel a jpg of probably the first one, a c1835 meeting
> hall and a great residence from the 1930s.
>
> A lanai is a covered space with open sides usually attached to a house
> or building. It is used interchangeably here for porch, [actually no
> one says porch] but to spell it correctly in Hawaiian it needs a
> horizontal mark over the first "a".  The Hawaiian root word is "la"
> meaning sun. You can throw away that Latin dictionary.
>
> Spencer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:14:19 EDT
> From:    Met History <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Silkscreened Stained Glass
>
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> [log in to unmask] expresses:
>
>> Someday we will be clear coating fiberboard.  I tried varnishing
>> particleboard for use as kitchen countertops in my kitchen in Joisey
>> City.
>> It looked OK initially, but I have a feeling it may not have done so
>> well
>> once it got wet. Anyway, wanted to see if this could be original as
>> well.
>> Yeah, it just wasn't meant to be exposed, or at least not to be
>> exposed to
>> polite society.
>
> In my old building at 90th and Broadway, a 1909 12 story apartment
> house with
> serious mahogany finishes throughout (it's not expensive to strip off 50
> years of paint and refinish 31 mahogany doors; what's expensive is
> making all
> the wood repairs covered up by the 50 years of rent-controlled paint
> jobs), I
> was a tenant in 1980, when tenants were just beginning to be aware of
> all the
> cool stuff that had been covered up.
>
> Usually people stripped the oak kitchen cabinets first, in part because
> the
> paint sort of popped off the original heavy laquer finish, and in part
> because you could mess up the kitchen.   Then they would do the dining
> room,
> because that had full-height panelling.  After that things varied, but
> many
> people started stripping the exuberant detail in the living room:
> pilasters
> on the corners and the chimney breast.
>
> I tried to warn as many as I could but some people didn't believe me
> when I
> said it was compo, and would sort of melt under regular stripper, and
> at any
> rate would be "natural wood".  So there are still at lot of living rooms
> there with nice new paint jobs (the apartments now sell for $1million
> plus)
> but very, very smudgey detailing.
>
> Christopher Gray
>
> PS Anyway, you aren't 'sposed to varnish particleboard - you should
> use a
> tung oil finish.   Helpful?
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="Arial" LANG="0">[log in to unmask] expresses:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Someday we will
> be clear coating fiberboard.&nbsp; <B>I tried varnishing particleboard
> for use as kitchen countertops in my kitchen in Joisey City.&nbsp; It
> looked OK initially, but I have a feeling it may not have done so well
> once it got wet. </B>Anyway, wanted to see if this could be original as
> well.&nbsp; <B>Yeah, it just wasn't meant to be exposed, or at least
> not to be exposed to polite society.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000"
> style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> In my old building at 90th and Broadway, a 1909 12 story apartment
> house with serious mahogany finishes throughout (it's not expensive to
> strip off 50 years of paint and refinish 31 mahogany doors; what's
> expensive is making all the wood repairs covered up by the 50 years of
> rent-controlled paint jobs), I was a tenant in 1980, when tenants were
> just beginning to be aware of all the cool stuff that had been covered
> up.&nbsp; <BR>
> <BR>
> Usually people stripped the oak kitchen cabinets first, in part because
> the paint sort of popped off the original heavy laquer finish, and in
> part because you could mess up the kitchen.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then they would
> do the dining room, because that had full-height panelling.&nbsp; After
> that things varied, but many people started stripping the exuberant
> detail in the living room:&nbsp; pilasters on the corners and the
> chimney breast.<BR>
> <BR>
> I tried to warn as many as I could but some people didn't believe me
> when I said it was compo, and would sort of melt under regular
> stripper, and at any rate would be "natural wood".&nbsp; So there are
> still at lot of living rooms there with nice new paint jobs (the
> apartments now sell for $1million plus) but very, very smudgey
> detailing.<BR>
> <BR>
> Christopher Gray<BR>
> <BR>
> PS Anyway, you aren't 'sposed to varnish particleboard - you should use
> a tung oil finish.&nbsp;&nbsp; Helpful? </FONT></HTML>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:17:07 EDT
> From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: cork floors
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> In a message dated 10/19/02 1:43:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
>
>> I am looking at cork floors; I am also looking at bamboo floors ; I
>> worry
>> about longevity and humidity
>
> Mr. Pyrate, Sir:
>
> I have friends who have a fairly high-style archt-designed 1950's house
> in
> nearby Short Hills, with a cork floor in most of it that seems to have
> held
> up pretty well.  One of the McKim Mead & White cottages in Newport (I'm
> quite
> sure it's Kingscote) has cork on the dining room (and maybe other)
> ceiling,
> and perhaps din rm walls, too, although one could aregue there's less
> foot
> traffic on their walls and ceilings than there will be on your
> floors.  I
> don't particularly like the SH house, hating 1950's stuff as a child of
> the
> early part of decade, but I can see that it's an interesting example
> and is
> worthy of TLC, but I don't think my friends the owners are likely to
> provide
> it, which will make for an interesting ethical quandary if they ever
> ask me
> to provide professional guidance....
>
> I am not terribly familiar with bamboo flooring, but it's my impression
> that
> this is a newly-developed product; I first hear about it from some
> designer
> type, and am suspicious as I am of everything I've never heard of
> before.
> One of the things I DID hear about it is that there was a very bad
> installation somewhere that resulted from a too-long or too-short sea
> voyage
> over from China or wherever the hell it comes from, and the bamboo
> didn't
> have enough time to dry (or acclimate itself, or some such problem) and
> had
> to be ripped out and replaced about 5 minutes after it was laid.
>
>  Maybe the Chinese have used this stuff over there for 10,000 years,
> but I
> wouldn't count on it here, just yet.  Then again, try it out: but keep
> us
> posted.
>
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
> 10/19/02 1:43:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am looking at
> cork floors; I am also looking at bamboo floors ; I worry<BR>
> about longevity and humidity </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> Mr. Pyrate, Sir:<BR>
> <BR>
> I have friends who have a fairly high-style archt-designed 1950's house
> in nearby Short Hills, with a cork floor in most of it that seems to
> have held up pretty well.&nbsp; One of the McKim Mead &amp; White
> cottages in Newport (I'm quite sure it's Kingscote) has cork on the
> dining room (and maybe other) ceiling, and perhaps din rm walls, too,
> although one could aregue there's less foot traffic on their walls and
> ceilings than there will be on your floors.&nbsp; I don't particularly
> like the SH house, hating 1950's stuff as a child of the early part of
> decade, but I can see that it's an interesting example and is worthy of
> TLC, but I don't think my friends the owners are likely to provide it,
> which will make for an interesting ethical quandary if they ever ask me
> to provide professional guidance....<BR>
> <BR>
> I am not terribly familiar with bamboo flooring, but it's my impression
> that this is a newly-developed product; I first hear about it from some
> designer type, and am suspicious as I am of everything I've never heard
> of before.&nbsp; One of the things I DID hear about it is that there
> was a very bad installation somewhere that resulted from a too-long or
> too-short sea voyage over from China or wherever the hell it comes
> from, and the bamboo didn't have enough time to dry (or acclimate
> itself, or some such problem) and had to be ripped out and replaced
> about 5 minutes after it was laid. <BR>
> <BR>
>  Maybe the Chinese have used this stuff over there for 10,000 years,
> but I wouldn't count on it here, just yet.&nbsp; Then again, try it
> out: but keep us posted.</FONT></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:26:25 EDT
> From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Silkscreened Stained Glass
>
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> In a message dated 10/20/02 5:14:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>> PS Anyway, you aren't 'sposed to varnish particleboard - you should
>> use a
>> tung oil finish.   Helpful?
>
> No.  Too late.
>
> I had cans of quick-dry varnish around, and didn't have cans of tung
> oil.
> And on second thought, I don't think one would want an oil finish on
> particleboard--the more impervious the better.  And on third thought, I
> think
> you're attempting to extend one of my lower extremities.
>
> Ralph
>
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
> 10/20/02 5:14:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
> writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">PS Anyway, you
> aren't 'sposed to varnish particleboard - you should use a tung oil
> finish.&nbsp;&nbsp; Helpful? </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000"
> style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> No.&nbsp; Too late.<BR>
> <BR>
> I had cans of quick-dry varnish around, and didn't have cans of tung
> oil.&nbsp; And on second thought, I don't think one would want an oil
> finish on particleboard--the more impervious the better.&nbsp; And on
> third thought, I think you're attempting to extend one of my lower
> extremities.<BR>
> <BR>
> Ralph<BR>
> <BR>
> </FONT></HTML>
> --part1_b9.28be4b11.2ae47981_boundary--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:56:39 -0400
> From:    William Gould <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Silkscreened Stained Glass
>
> on 10/19/02 9:53 AM, Robert J. Cagnetta at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
>> We have some 1883 church glass that seems to be silkscreened, with a
>> wash of
>> color in some parts of the design.  We can see the "movement" in the
>> pattern
>> that may suggest a screening, yet it does not easliy scrape off.  Is
>> there a
>> "fixer" of some sort applied over it to stabilize it?  And are the inks
>> still available?
>>
> Are you dealing with transparent, translucent or opaque materials,
> colors,
> that has been transferred to the glass?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> The other thing is that the existing linoleom has a burlap backing.
>> Could
>> this be original?  It lies ove a unremarkable face nailed T&G floor,
>> which
>> now people like this old subfloor.  Someday we will be clear coating
>> fiberboard.  Anyway, wanted to see if this could be original as well.
>>
>> And remember, if you are going to shoot your hand with a nail gun, be
>> sure
>> that the nails are stainless steel.  Less infection.
>>
>> Rob Cagnetta
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:13:47 -0400
> From:    john <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: PTNEWS
>
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> The Preservation Trades Network is now doing a newsletter.  I am working
> on Vol 1. #2.  I am looking for information as shown in the outline.  If
> you have a contribution please send it to me as a microsoft word file.
>
> First; Front Page = Interest article    (750 - 1000)
> I need an interest article
>
>         Recent IPTW
>                 I need reflections on IPTW
>
>   Membership Activity           Letters from members or others (500
> words)
>
>         News about members
>
> Moving to new responsibilities (50 to 75)
>
> Receiving awards (35 t0 75)
>
> Preservation Trades News
>         I need information in this area
>         Exhibits related to trades and building technology (50 -100)
>         Conferences and tours related to Preservation Trades. (50 -100)
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> The Preservation Trades Network is now doing a newsletter.  I am
> working on Vol 1. #2.  I am looking for information as shown in the
> outline.  If you have a contribution please send it to me as a
> microsoft word file.
>
>
> First; Front Page = Interest article    (750 - 1000)
>
> <italic>I need an interest article
>
> </italic>
>
>         Recent IPTW
>
>                 <italic>I need reflections on IPTW
>
>         </italic>
>
>  Membership Activity            Letters from members or others (500
> words)
>
>         <italic>
>
> </italic>       News about members
>
>
> Moving to new responsibilities (50 to 75)
>
>
> Receiving awards (35 t0 75)
>
>
> Preservation Trades News
>
>         <italic>I need information in this area
>
> </italic>       Exhibits related to trades and building technology (50
> -100)
>
>         Conferences and tours related to Preservation Trades. (50 -100)
>
>         Training related to Preservation Trades (50 -100)
>
>          Building conservation projects of interest (250 - 500)
>
>   Employment opportunities (50-100)
>
> Position available
>
> Positions sought
>
> Volunteer opportunities
>
>
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