We had/have an over abundance of deer in our town of Maplewood NJ which is 13 miles west of Manhattan. The 2,200 acre nature reservation had about 650 deer 3 years ago denuding the understory. After years of debate the county went forward with a highly regulated deer hunt using marksmen shooting downward from tree blinds and all. The first year they removed 350 and last year about 75. They are doing the hunt again this year because they need to down to about 50 or less. Naturalists say that for the systems of nature to function, there should only be about 1 deer per 100 acres (22 deer in total) in our area but could allow that number to go up to a high range of 40 deer. Amazing to go from 650 to 40! Then the forest can regenerate. I have lived here 7 years and spend a lot of time in the reservation, the forest has really declined in that time. Obviously this is a contentious issue around here. I think the county is on a good path.
The killed deer are butchered and given to food shelters. The marksmen/hunters get about 50-100 lbs of meat as payment if they reach a certain quota. Nothing else.
Eric Hammarberg, Assoc. AIA
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From: The listserv where the buildings do the talking [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Leland Torrence
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [BP] Ken, can you translate?
Hmmm... Yes. Even up here in the NE, the deer look more like mules than the
deer of yesterday. We all evolve. I typically see four to eighteen deer,
one or two coyote, fourteen turkey, one skunk, a couple of raccoon, thirty
to fifty geese, two red tail hawk and four humans from my office window that
is located 6.6 miles from the New Haven green. Other visitors on a less
regular basis are snowy egret, pileated woodpecker, great horned owl, great
blue heron, green heron, red tail hawk, red fox, otter, muskrat, woodchuck,
six of seven vultures and high school students -did I mention my office is
not a hunting blind.
Best,
Leland
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of deb bledsoe
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [BP] Ken, can you translate?
Leland, What problems with the patois? Obviously, someone is giving Py
grief for hunting ( and thankfully thinning) deer from our ridiculously
ecologically out of balance eastern white-tail deer herd. Moreover,
these deer are contributing much needed protein to the diets of our (not
kidding at this point) local population of pretty damn close to third
world locals here in the SE US.. In addition, Py informed them that the
SE states, while not affluent, were fairly influential politically.
The wilderness committee was aghast and retired to discuss this, amid
offers of barbeque and beer, I THINK. This part was not clear.
~deb
Leland Torrence wrote:
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> Ken,
>
> You understand the patois of the Davidson Clan?
>
> The World of Py,
>
> Leland
>
>
>
> *From:* The listserv where the buildings do the talking
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Gabriel
> Orgrease
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:20 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [BP] Ken, can you translate?
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>
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> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> In a message dated 11/10/2009 9:43:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> writes:
>
> day 3 of confrence and they got Py backed into a corner ver my
> mauser collection for taking the kings deer for my winter table.I
> shared in my best reverent voice that i come from the largest (and
> poorest) 3rd world part of North america that has never been
> documented (sans easy rider) by anthropologists that lives on a
> diet of bass and deer meat and moon pies and takes umbridge at
> having thier primitive weapons( pronounced wee-pons ) taken
> awayfrom them . I then showed photos of local
> abirigionals(rednecks) hunting (its true) with atals and spears
> by the swale of the Mississippi .
>
> (local take was 21 whire tails in 2008)
>
> agast the chair floor assulted me with ribald remarks and inuedo
> however I wanted them to know that this voting electorate was a
> block and one of the most powerful in the senate (yellow dogs) and
> that to win them over was not to belittle then of thier eitgth
> grade education but to hone in on what was happening to the
> enivorment to protect their way of life ....this wnt into comitee
> meeting as to which i said what might sweeten the pot was free
> beer and bar b que mor later /py
>
>
>
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> yes
>
> dzień 3 Confrence i dostali Py wsparte na rogu ver mojej kolekcji
> Mauser podejmowania królów Jeleń dla moich zimowych table.I dzielone w
> moim najlepszym głosem czci że pochodzę z największych (i
> najbiedniejszych) 3. części świata Ameryka Północna, że nigdy nie
> zostało udokumentowane (sans Easy Rider) przez antropologów, który
> żyje na diecie basu i mięsa sarny i pies księżyca i zajmuje Umbridge,
> które umożliwią prymitywnej broni (czyt. wee-mostek) podjęte awayfrom
> im. Potem pokazał zdjęcia lokalnych abirigionals (Rednecks) Hunting
> (prawdziwe) z atals i włócznie przez Swale od Missisipi.
> (lokalne podejmują wyniósł 21 whire ogony w 2008 r.) agast podłogi
> krzesło assulted mnie rubaszny uwagi i inuedo jednak chciałem, by
> wiedzieli, że ten elektorat do głosowania był blok i jeden z
> najbardziej wpływowych w senacie (żółte psy) i że, aby wygrać je na
> stronę, aby nie bagatelizować następnie ich eitgth edukacji klasy, ale
> podnosić w sprawie tego, co się dzieje enivorment ochrony ich sposób
> życia .... to WNT w comitee posiedzeniu, na którym powiedziałem, co
> może osłodzić puli było darmowe piwo i bar b mor que później / py
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