with all due respect, as detrimental as I believe the likes of echolink 
and IRLP to be to ham radio, they do have their uses. as it stands, with 
the ever increasing areas that are now restricted covenants, it's 
getting harder and harder to even put up a little VHF/UHF antenna.
hide one in doors? sure. if you don't want to get to anywhere other than 
a repeater. hide a tiny hf antenna in doors?, again, your efficiency 
decreases.
let's not quibble over this, let's just face the fact that echolink and 
IRLP are here and will remain so. besides, I thought the idea of amateur 
radio was experimentation. is that not what we're doing with echolink 
and IRLP?

Shaun,
vk2fese,


"Cry 'havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war"


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On 9/02/2009 12:42 AM, we were able to ascertain that John Miller 
pondered upon these thoughts, and proclaimed thus.:
> Wow, that's a statement with all the intelligence of a 3 year old. "get a 
> life"? I have one thank you. I'm just glad I have the smarts to know how bad 
> echolink is for ham radio. We need to get people on the air. There are 
> enough programs out there to chat all over the world on the computer, 
> there's no point to echolink especially when it's getting people off the 
> bands. Luckily it's a small number of people but if we keep getting the 
> newer people over there and telling them that's the way it's done now, 
> another 10 years there will be no real ham radio to speak of it will be all 
> computer and that will cause 3/4 of the ham population if not more to sell 
> out if they can and turn in their licenses, myself included.
> 
> Now, if you want to grow up and use something more intelligent than "get a 
> life" feel free to respond, if not, you can go cry on echolink because I'll 
> never hear you.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GARY TILLINGHAST" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:37 AM
> Subject: Re: intro
> 
> 
>> Get a life.  Traffic however gotten is traffic.  This might be the party
>> only mode and it Echolink is just another tool. GDT
>>
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