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Good to hear that this software is becoming accessible.  I'd tried Amateur contact log back in 2007 or so, and didn't have much luck with it at the time.  So nice to hear that there's work being done on it.  
On 2013-08-29, at 5:45 PM, Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> 
> I've been amazed at how quickly Scott has changed everything I asked!  We
> started last Thursday, and initially I wondered exactly what I had committed
> to <smile>.  But, once Scott had solved the baffling problem of the
> incorrect labels being read on the Setup screen, he really came through.  
> 
> I won't claim  it's perfect, and in most instances it's taken just a little
> tweak to make it accessible, but in my opinion it's now way better than even
> the old versions.  Certain aspects of the C# programming setup actually make
> accessibility much easier for blind users.  For example, the help text on
> each of the Settings dialogs is in an Edit Box, and you can access it by
> tabbing around the controls.  This is near perfect.  The only change I
> requested here, was for the insertion cursor to always be at the top of the
> text.  By default it was usually at the bottom of the text and sometimes on
> a blank line.  As you tabbed around, you got a seemingly blank Edit Box,
> whereas now, you get the first line of text, and you naturally arrow down to
> read more.
> 
> I've also just had a message from Scott confirming he is recompiling all the
> previously updated Contest logs.  I think we will all be testing for some
> time to come <smile>!
> 
> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
> 
> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> 
> www.active-elements.org
> 
> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: 29 August 2013 18:23
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
> 
> Kelvin:
> 
> This is terrific news!
> 
> As you know, I am not in a position now to do the detailed beta testing we
> previously discussed due to the fact that I'm on travel.   Hopefully,
> someone with experience both with Jaws and A C log can step up to the plate
> and help out until I return home.
> 
> I would be extremely interested in any new A C Log tutorials you will be
> able to create after things have been tried and tested further, since I
> would like to use that program for general logging purposes.
> 
> Also, once I'm back at the home QTH after September 10th, I'll be very happy
> to test out any of Scott's contest logging programs, since I enjoy using
> them and have found them to be very accessible prior to  the latest updates.
> 
> Please continue to communicate to Scott how much we appreciate his efforts
> on our behalf.  Also, please know your efforts here are most appreciated as
> well.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Kelvin Marsh
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:11 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The new accessibility features are now incorporated into the 4.2 Beta of
> Amateur Contact Log.  I requested, and Scott has implemented full keyboard
> access to virtually every aspect of the logger, including the Cluster
> window, and apart from today's tweaks, I think it's just about done.
> Knowing how hard Scott works, I bet 4.2 will be out of Beta very soon
> 
> I understand that Scott is also reincorporating the shared accessibility
> changes into his contest software at the moment.  Whilst I'm not sure how
> accessible these programs will be, the setup dialogs that we were struggling
> with previously should be as they are in AC Log itself.
> 
> Interestingly, Scott has used NVDA, whilst I've been testing with NVDA,
> System Access and Window-Eyes.  All the screen readers work slightly
> differently, but NVDA and System Access are virtually identical and very
> good.  I've found WE to be much more flexible, but I will need to use the
> Hot Spot app for some simple macros to get things the way I want them.
> 
> Tom had offered to test using JAWS, but because of the speed Scott works,
> all the changes have been done.  If there is an experienced AC Log user
> using JAWS, and you'd like to run some quick tests, please let me know ASAP.
> I say 'experienced' with AC Log, as you will need to know how the log works
> yourself with little or no training <smile>!
> 
> All in all, it's been an interesting exercise, and it's been a pleasure to
> work with Scott N3FJP.  Once the 4.2 version is live, I'll record some
> training MP3s.
> 
> 
> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
> 
> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> 
> www.active-elements.org
> 
> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
> 
> 
> 
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