Kelvin:
Once again, this is absolutely great news!!
I am looking very much forward to both trying the new version of A C log,
and to testing the new contest logging software versions in the C number
format.
I'm sure that with the accessibility issues resolved in the new C number
versions, his software will continue to be useful to a great many hams in
the years to come, and I will do my part to promote it among blind hams as I
had tried to do in the past.
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
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From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Kelvin Marsh
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:45 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
Hi Tom,
I've been amazed at how quickly Scott has changed everything I asked! We
started last Thursday, and initially I wondered exactly what I had committed
to <smile>. But, once Scott had solved the baffling problem of the
incorrect labels being read on the Setup screen, he really came through.
I won't claim it's perfect, and in most instances it's taken just a little
tweak to make it accessible, but in my opinion it's now way better than even
the old versions. Certain aspects of the C# programming setup actually make
accessibility much easier for blind users. For example, the help text on
each of the Settings dialogs is in an Edit Box, and you can access it by
tabbing around the controls. This is near perfect. The only change I
requested here, was for the insertion cursor to always be at the top of the
text. By default it was usually at the bottom of the text and sometimes on
a blank line. As you tabbed around, you got a seemingly blank Edit Box,
whereas now, you get the first line of text, and you naturally arrow down to
read more.
I've also just had a message from Scott confirming he is recompiling all the
previously updated Contest logs. I think we will all be testing for some
time to come <smile>!
Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
www.active-elements.org
For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: 29 August 2013 18:23
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
Kelvin:
This is terrific news!
As you know, I am not in a position now to do the detailed beta testing we
previously discussed due to the fact that I'm on travel. Hopefully,
someone with experience both with Jaws and A C log can step up to the plate
and help out until I return home.
I would be extremely interested in any new A C Log tutorials you will be
able to create after things have been tried and tested further, since I
would like to use that program for general logging purposes.
Also, once I'm back at the home QTH after September 10th, I'll be very happy
to test out any of Scott's contest logging programs, since I enjoy using
them and have found them to be very accessible prior to the latest updates.
Please continue to communicate to Scott how much we appreciate his efforts
on our behalf. Also, please know your efforts here are most appreciated as
well.
Sincerely,
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Kelvin Marsh
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
Hi All,
The new accessibility features are now incorporated into the 4.2 Beta of
Amateur Contact Log. I requested, and Scott has implemented full keyboard
access to virtually every aspect of the logger, including the Cluster
window, and apart from today's tweaks, I think it's just about done.
Knowing how hard Scott works, I bet 4.2 will be out of Beta very soon
I understand that Scott is also reincorporating the shared accessibility
changes into his contest software at the moment. Whilst I'm not sure how
accessible these programs will be, the setup dialogs that we were struggling
with previously should be as they are in AC Log itself.
Interestingly, Scott has used NVDA, whilst I've been testing with NVDA,
System Access and Window-Eyes. All the screen readers work slightly
differently, but NVDA and System Access are virtually identical and very
good. I've found WE to be much more flexible, but I will need to use the
Hot Spot app for some simple macros to get things the way I want them.
Tom had offered to test using JAWS, but because of the speed Scott works,
all the changes have been done. If there is an experienced AC Log user
using JAWS, and you'd like to run some quick tests, please let me know ASAP.
I say 'experienced' with AC Log, as you will need to know how the log works
yourself with little or no training <smile>!
All in all, it's been an interesting exercise, and it's been a pleasure to
work with Scott N3FJP. Once the 4.2 version is live, I'll record some
training MP3s.
Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
www.active-elements.org
For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
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