Phil, I agree with your approach of using what ever resource that works best
for you.  If one option doesn't work so well for you, and another works
well, obviously it makes sense to use the approach that is the easiest.



Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Phil Scovell
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: QRZ.COM

My personal problem, and I've been using QRZ for years, has never been with 
looking up calls.  I don't think anybody on here said they wanted a pissing 
contest but then again, webmaster's always get one blind person saying, 
well, it works fine for me, and another saying it doesn't.  I've owned 
website long enough, and fiddle with constructing them and changing them, 
for many years, so it's hard to comply with everyone.  I just generally find

the whole QRZ site about as speech friendly of pay pal, google groups, 
yahoo, and many other large complicated sites.  At my age, I don't have the 
patience to sit in a pile up for 3 or 4 hours trying to work a new country 
like I did when I was first licensed.  The same is true navigating websites.

Besides, I have to stop and pee more often these days so I take the easy way

out and use my iPhone to look up calls.

Phil.
K0NX



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: QRZ.COM


> It seems awful funny that when I log into QRZ.com and look up a given
> callsign, I never have a problem.  I read ham's addresses, email address,
> details and bios, again with no problem.  I guess that I don't quite
> understand where and what the problem is.  I have no problem telling Fred
> that there is an access issue, if there is one, but I guarantee you all 
> that
> I will not get into a pissing contest with him.  If I were to talk with 
> Fred
> right now, I'd tell him that as far as I am concerned, the site is
> accessible, based upon my experience.
>
> Alan/KD7GC
>
>
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:13 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: QRZ.COM
>
> IIRC,
> I think his call is AA7bq. I will have to check my contact list to see =
> if I still have his email.
>
> Someone needs to inform him that we are far larger than a "small =
> population". Last I checked, we (as a group) made up somewhere around 7% =
> of the overall US ham community. Its interesting that this number also =
> coincides with the actual percentage of blind people in the US =
> population. Interesting that.
>
> -eric
> .
> On May 10, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
>
>> What is the call sign of the owners and email address of the owners of =
> =3D
>> QRZ.com?
>>=20
>> Every time I try to log in, it doesn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t accept my =
> password. I =3D
>> have to keep resetting it which is a real drag.=3D20
>>=20
>> Bob Ringwald K6Ybv
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: Eric Oyen=3D20
>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:17 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: QRZ.COM
>>=20
>> you aren't the only one. I have tried to get hold of fred loud (the =
> =3D3D
>> website owner) to explain the issues. His response went something =
> along =3D
>> =3D3D
>> the lines of: I will not change the website or the database. it is =
> fine =3D
>> =3D3D
>> just the way it is.
>>=20
>> Apparently, he is either ignorant of our difficulties or simply does =
> not =3D
>> =3D3D
>> care. I have also chatted with the developers of Vbulletin. They have =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> made changes to their forum hosting web package so that it can be made =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> more accessible. All it requires is that the website owner check a few =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> configuration options to allow for accessibility. They were far more =
> =3D3D
>> helpful than Mr. Lloyd seems to be.
>>=20
>> Some of the issues I have encountered with QRZ.com:
>> 1. call sign lookups have some controls that are not usable by screen =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> reader users (such as mouse over to reveal email, etc.)
>> 2. scrolling past the initial posting in a thread causes the browser =
> to =3D
>> =3D3D
>> either lock, or crash when using a screen reader (especially on a mac)
>> 3. posting a new thread is problematic as the edit area can't be =3D3D
>> interacted with directly (I have to compose in a text editor and then =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> copy/paste into said area).
>> There are a myriad of other issues (a lot dealing with the advertising =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>> links), but are too bothersome to list.
>>=20
>> thats my experience with QRZ.com.
>>=20
>> -eric
>> N7zzt
>>=20
>> On May 9, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
>>=20
>>> I have nothing but trouble with QRZ.com
>>> =3D3D20
>>> I feel that the sight is not =3D3D3DE2=3D3D3D80=3D3D3D9CBlind =3D3D
>> Friendly=3D3D3DE2=3D3D3D80=3D3D3D9D.=3D3D3D20
>>> =3D3D20
>>> Anyone else have hassles with it?
>>> =3D3D20
>>> =3D3D20
>>> =3D3D20
>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>> www.ringwald.com
>>> 916/ 806-9551
>>> =3D3D20
>>> "Don't worry about the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in =3D=
>
>> =3D3D3D
>>> Australia".=3D3D3D20
>>> =3D3D3DE2=3D3D3D80=3D3D3D93Charles M. Schulz
>