Tom, okay you gotta deal.


Junior Lolley KG4itd
Liberty County Emergency Coordinator

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:33 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: My response to the new ham creed post

    Junior:

I can only imagine how good that loop of yours will sound on 20 and 40
meters with an amplifier!!!!

When that happens for you, I'll be celebrating right in there with you! 
(big smile)

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: My response to the new ham creed post


> Tom, maybe one day I can get an amp so I can relay a little better on the
> nets.
>
>
> Junior Lolley KG4itd
> Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: My response to the new ham creed post
>
>    The other thing to keep in mind too is that amps are extremely helpful
> if you are a net control or relay for an HF net, similar to what we now 
> try
> to do on week-ends.
>
> Sure, there will likely be bad apples in every bunch, but don't throw the
> baby out with the bath water!
>
> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara Lombardi" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: My response to the new ham creed post
>
>
>> There is nothing wrong with using amps and I know many responsible hams
>> using them very well and they sound great including those on 3.999.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of John Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:38 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: My response to the new ham creed post
>>
>> Huh? Are you talking CB or ham radio here? 90% of hams I know on HF have
>> amps and you can't even tell they have them other than the bigger signals
>> here and there. I know people on CB who run dirty but can't say I've seen
>> much of it on ham radio unless things have changed since late August. I
>> hope
>> to find out soon, I'll hopefully be back on HF soon and if the rumored
>> RACES
>> program going away happens around here, it's very possible I may *only* 
>> be
>> on HF and 900 MHz after that.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:57 AM
>> Subject: My response to the new ham creed post
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just read the "new ham creed" thread, very interesting.
>>> I've responded to some of the comments.
>>> "if you heard someone splattering up and down the band on sideband,
>>> you = politely broke in, told him about it, and generally the man
>>> thanked you = for letting him know and made adjustments to fix the
>> problem."
>>> I have mixed emotions about this topic.
>>> A few years ago, I criticized a ham about his signal on the air.
>>> He said to me, "Trippy, you gonna come over here and fix it for me?"
>>> That shut me up, real quick.
>>> I've painfully learned ever since that day, if I was gonna criticize =
>>> another ham for his/her stations performance, I better match my =
>>> criticism with either telling him/her how to fix it, or, going over =
>>> there and fixing it myself.
>>> "these boys were loud, in other words, and often such stations are =
>>> running pretty big amplifiers which put out a lot more than the legal
>>> = limit, if you get my meaning,"
>>> I get the meaning, but you don't know that, meaning, how much power
>>> was = being used, so why did you even say it?
>>> Unless you can prove that kind of statement, don't say it.
>>> "I've seen them literally move off frequency, tell the station too
>>> close = to their quiet channel to move, and if he does?  They all move
>>> down on = top of him and talk as if he isn't there."
>>> I completely agree with this part of the post!
>>> What I would do in those situations, and have done it myself, is when
>>> I = hear a station doing that, I record the event happening, and send
>>> it to = the FCC.
>>> I've gotten stations licenses taken away and I will continue to do it,
>>> = when they deliberately get on a frequency that's being used, and
>>> start = talking, without even seeing if the frequency is in use.  We
>>> need = another Riley Hollingsworth in our hobby, really, really bad.
>>> "Anyhow, they got to ragging on him because he wouldn't turn on his =
>>> amp,"
>>> Pretty soon, there will be a change in amateur radio.
>>> Many hams are talking with the FCC about this very issue now, the
>>> issue = of amps.
>>> In ham radio, there should be no amps used on HF, everybody should
>>> have = the 250 watt limit.
>>> This will result in fair, and more civil, hf operation.
>>> "100 to 180 foot towers,"
>>> If I had my way, and could do it financially, I would love to buy a
>>> 180 = foot tower for every ham, with antennas to go along with it, at
>>> least I = can dream, right?
>>> "I thought it was sort of funny he was pissing off the big boys with
>>> his = weaker signal.  I believe he was doing it on purpose,"
>>> I hope he was, and I don't blame him for it.  Like you all, I've been
>>> = that weaker station, and hams with big amps hate those of us who
>>> don't = have them.
>>> "There used to be a group on 3.999 called the 99ers who pretty much
>>> insisted you join them with an amp."
>>> Well, the 99ers days are numbered, I can tell you that.
>>> 73,
>>> Trippy, ac8s
>>
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