well, I thank you for taking the trouble just as you did withN1MM logger.
many thanks for this!


Curtis Delzer.
HS.

K 6 V F O
San Bernardino, CA.

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:15:39 +0100
Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Curtis,
> 
> I think that I'll do the MP3 tutorials and review when 4.2 is properly
> released, in a couple of days and when I've had time to get used to it as my
> live log <smile>!  
> 
> It's interesting that Window-Eyes doesn't hook into the code as NVDA and
> System Access does, and will need a bit of relabeling done.  There are some
> List Views on the main screen where SA and NVDA do a great job, and
> Window-Eyes is not so good out of the box, but can be made to do a slightly
> better job than the other two with the use of Hot Spots.  Sometimes I needed
> to be practical with the access, and I figured that if it worked identically
> with 2 out of the 3 screen readers, it was the third one with the problem,
> even if it was the one I use the most!
> 
> I've actually written to GW Micro, to ask why WE is not doing the job out of
> the box.
> 
> The testing by Jim using JAWS will be very interesting.
> 
> I'll be giving out all the 4.2 download details in a day or so, and will
> perhaps have a little time to help with how AC Log works.
> 
> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
> 
> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> 
> www.active-elements.org
> 
> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
> Sent: 29 August 2013 18:18
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility
> 
> that is certainly great news! where do we find this update, etc.
> and have you done a review, etc. I use window-eyes, but have NVDA as
> well and enjoy it's ability too, for example, work with my TMV71A
> programmer.
> 
> 
> Curtis Delzer.
> HS.
> 
> K 6 V F O
> San Bernardino, CA.
> 
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> skype: curtis1014
> 
> 
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:10:42 +0100
> Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > The new accessibility features are now incorporated into the 4.2 Beta of
> > Amateur Contact Log.  I requested, and Scott has implemented full keyboard
> > access to virtually every aspect of the logger, including the Cluster
> > window, and apart from today's tweaks, I think it's just about done.
> > Knowing how hard Scott works, I bet 4.2 will be out of Beta very soon
> > 
> > I understand that Scott is also reincorporating the shared accessibility
> > changes into his contest software at the moment.  Whilst I'm not sure how
> > accessible these programs will be, the setup dialogs that we were
> struggling
> > with previously should be as they are in AC Log itself.
> > 
> > Interestingly, Scott has used NVDA, whilst I've been testing with NVDA,
> > System Access and Window-Eyes.  All the screen readers work slightly
> > differently, but NVDA and System Access are virtually identical and very
> > good.  I've found WE to be much more flexible, but I will need to use the
> > Hot Spot app for some simple macros to get things the way I want them.
> > 
> > Tom had offered to test using JAWS, but because of the speed Scott works,
> > all the changes have been done.  If there is an experienced AC Log user
> > using JAWS, and you'd like to run some quick tests, please let me know
> ASAP.
> > I say 'experienced' with AC Log, as you will need to know how the log
> works
> > yourself with little or no training <smile>!
> >  
> > All in all, it's been an interesting exercise, and it's been a pleasure to
> > work with Scott N3FJP.  Once the 4.2 version is live, I'll record some
> > training MP3s.
> > 
> > 
> > Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
> > 
> > Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> > 
> > www.active-elements.org
> > 
> > For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
> 
> 
> 
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