Hi Ron,
I think Fred's response is reasonable, as I know some of the similar sites
appear to have used QRZ data. I also applaud the use of log in details, as
now, my address information is not available to just anyone on the web
<smile>.
Without completely refreshing my memory, I don't have too many problems
looking up callsigns, but there are no HTML headings on the page, and
reading down the page for each look up is tedious. I normally search for
the word 'donate' and this lands me above the contact details.
The biggest problem I have is in accessing my Account. Again I need to
refresh the memory to be certain, but I recall a pop up is utilised to offer
the various editing options. It is the very devil to get to with
Window-Eyes, and requires me to move the mouse pointer by fixed units. It
does not show up normally. I can't see how the text page would help this,
but it might.
Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
www.active-elements.org
For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
Sent: 24 August 2013 05:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: QRZ.COM accessibility
Below my message here is Fred's response to my post. Frankly, I am a bit
disappointed in his reply. My impression is that he is not especially
interested in working with us to find a mutually satisfactory solution to
the QRZ access issues. I expected him to possibly reject my suggestion, but
I thought he would come back and leave the door open for additional feedback
and suggestions if our initial one was not acceptable, but that is not how I
am perceiving his response. So, this is going to require a little more
thought in terms of what our next move should be. I'm going to work with the
site a little more myself. Since some of you are having no problems and some
are having considerable problems, it seems logical that we step back and ask
the question:
What are some of us doing differently than others, resulting in some of us
having more or less difficulty accessing the QRZ site.
I suspect it might be as simple as those who are not having access issues
are logging into the site with a user ID and Password while those who are
experiencing problems are not. If, indeed, it is this simple, then, we can
take a little different approach with Fred and probably gain his full
cooperation.
So, is anyone here still having problems accessing QRZ.COM even if you use
your user ID and password? Of course, we are referring to only screenreader
users.
Ron, K8HSY
From: Fred Lloyd [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: QRZ.COM accessibility
Ron,
There are circumstances which make it difficult for me to openly advertise a
text-only version of the site. The facility, by the way, only serves
callsign lookups and the raw data. It does not handle any forums or
biography material.
When the callsign data is made openly available to text readers, people
start abusing the site and writing programs to take advantage of an "open
door" into our database. This activity subverts our subscription stream
which in turn could cause substantial harm to our company. It's a sad
fact of life.
The system we now have in place requires word-of-mouth dissemination and
each member must be individually authorized by QRZ management to use the
feature.
73,
-fred
On 8/23/2013 9:58 PM, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
Fred,
First, I commend you for an excellent website, QRZ.COM. It is, indeed, one
of the most premier sites on the internet for hams.
However, there is one segment of hams, actually a rather large segment, that
are experiencing significant challenges when trying to access your site.
Those of us who are blind and use screen reading programs, like JAWS and
WindowEyes, are having problems accessing QRZ.COM. I understand that you
have a Text-based alternative that is more accessible. Unfortunately, not
very many of my blind colleagues are aware of this more accessible
alternative. Toward the objective of resolving this problem, I recommend
that you simply put a link on the top of your landing page, your index page,
something like:
For Screen Reader Users, Click Here
To make it even easier, it would be good if this entire wording be the link;
so, no matter where the screen reader user clicks on this link, it will take
him/her over to the text alternative of your site.
Fred, my intent is to help you with this issue and offer a possible solution
for my blind ham colleagues. We are ready and willing to assist you any way
we can to resolve this issue. If needed, we are fully prepared to form a
small group or committee of blind hams to work with you and help any way we
can. Just let us know if we can assist you any further with this matter.
73,
Ron, K8HSY
--
Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ
President and Founder, QRZ.COM
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http://www.qrz.com/db/aa7bq
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