This has been discussed to death.  But if you must, use this subject line.
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Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Gillen ZL1CHM
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 5:58 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Decent 160M antenna

That should have read if you add a carriage return.=20

Scott
ZL1CHM / N0HOK
Auckland New Zealand=20
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Sent from my iPhone

On 1/10/2015, at 11:26 AM, Scott Gillen ZL1CHM <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On my iPhone if I add a cartwheel return at about
> the 60 character in the line You don't get the =3D's signs.=20
> You may be able to push that out closer to the 80 though.=20
> Didn't want to clutter of the list to test that theory.=20
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> Scott=20
> ZL1CHM / N0HOK
> Auckland New Zealand=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 1/10/2015, at 8:33 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Any way to send this without the equals?
>> 73
>> Butch
>> WA0VJR
>> Node 3148
>> Wallace, ks.
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>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015, Eric Oyen=20
>> wrote:
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>>> here is an alternative that is pretty easy to build.
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>>> 1 you will need 50 feet of PVC pipe and at least 1/4 wave of enameled 
>>> =3D=

>>> magnet wire. the idea here is to make a helical wound antenna (much 
>>> like=
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>>> a firestik. the windings will need to be widely spaced at the bottom 
>>> =3D=

>>> (about 1 turn per foot and gradually reducing to a tight wound coil 
>>> near=
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>>> the top. You can also create loaded ground radials this way. The ground 
>>> =3D=

>>> radials definitely need to be 1/4 wave long (electrically). the 
>>> vertical=
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>>> element can be 1/4 up to 3/4 waves (wound). THis will make an excellent 
>>> =3D=

>>> low space vertical antenna.
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>>> as a second (receive only) you can create a magnetic loop antenna that 
>>> =3D=

>>> is not much larger than 10 feet in diameter. the top will be split and 
>>> a=
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>>> tuning cap placed there. there is also a secondary coupling loop (this 
>>> =3D=

>>> will directly connect to the coax). with the addition of a preamp, you 
>>> =3D=

>>> will have a station that can produce a decent signal on 160 with the 
>>> =3D=

>>> ears to match.
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>>> DE n7zzt Eric
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>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Steve Forst wrote:
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>>>> Mike,
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>>>> I don't have any experience with any of the antennas you mention, 
>>>> but=3D=
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>>>> perhaps an inverted L would be better than the long wire.  For long 
>>>> =3D=

>>> haul=3D20
>>>> stuff on 160, vertical antennas are the way to go.   You would get =3D
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>>>> from the inverted L, or the other 2 antennas you mention.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> I'm using what is probably the worst antenna for 160, a loaded 
>>>> dipole=3D=
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>>>> that isn't very high.  You have a better location than me, and 
>>>> would=3D=
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>>>> probably do well no matter what antenna you use.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> While there is plenty of SSB activity, and even DX, my experience 
>>>> is=3D=
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>>>> that CW is the better mode on this band.  I have 19 DXCC countries 
>>>> on=3D=
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>>>> 160 SSB worked, and 60 countries on CW.   Only country I worked on =3D
>>> phone=3D20
>>>> that I couldn't repeat on CW was Gambia.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Of course, your location may give you nice  SSB contacts into 
>>>> western=3D=
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>>>> Europe, that I could only dream about.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Good luck.  Now is the time to do something before the snow flies.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Do you know what the bandwidth would be for  the Zero 5 antenna with 
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>>> the=3D20
>>>> optional coil?
>>>> =3D20
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>> =3D20
>>>> On 9/30/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Ryan wrote:
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> This may open up a flood gate but what are your decent 160M antennas 
>>>>> =3D=

>>> and experiences with these?
>>>>> I'm hoping to put up a 330 foot long wire on a 20 foot high mast in a 
>>>>> =3D=

>>> few weeks but not sure how well it will get out with 4 or 500W. I think 
>>> =3D=

>>> another favorite is the Hy-gain high towers, which are 50 feet tall 
>>> with=
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>>> a coil and require radials. There's now a coil I can buy for my Zero 
>>> =3D=

>>> Five vertical which makes it a better performer on 160 with radials. 
>>> I'm=
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>>> pretty sure I could get this coil and some radials for 160 for a 3RD 
>>> the=
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>>> cost of the Hy-gain high tower.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> 73:
>>>>> Mike DE VO1AX
>>>>> =3D20
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